hey internet I love you, anyways I'm making a cavalier for the new hell's vengeance campaign and after starting hell's rebels recently and seeing the asmodean chick with the hell hound in book 1. I figured I want something similar.
So whats the soonest lvl you could get a hell hound companion or cohort or whatever its called, because the rules on it are kind of confusing.
There is no companion or bonded mount ability that can give you a hell hound. You would have to take leadership for a cohort and even then get GM approval. So basically, "Ask your GM".
so leadership would be the only way?
what about the monstrous mount feat? or the monstrous companion feat?
Both of those feats have specific lifts of what creatures can be obtained with them. Hell hound is not among them. You would need a house rule from the GM one way or the other.
Bit of a stretch and requires a houserule, but maybe if you sell your soul to a devil... Fido had better be worth it then!
Lol thanks guys will probably ask gm, I plan on going sentinel of asmodeus so having an awsome hell hound conpanion would be awsome hopefully we can work something out
You could ask for a magic item. There's that one item which is a bronze statue that turns into a griffin. You could ask your gm to have it turn into a hell hound instead. You might also be able to call one (With a caster buddy) and set up an arrangement. This is all subject to GM approval but it's worth a shot. I would do it at the level you'd be allowed to have it as a cohort. That would seem to be the fairest way to do it.
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If you're looking to go the figurine of wondrous power route, a close comparison would be the serpentine eagle. It turns into a CR 3 creature, same as a hell hound. It shouldn't be too hard to convince your GM to allow an item with similar stats that summons hell hounds, and maybe regular dogs as well, since the serpentine eagle allows for regular eagle or giant eagle. Though at 9100 gp, you likely won't be able to afford one for a while.
Hell Hounds count as level seven characters if you want them as a cohort, which means you'd have to be at least level nine and a leadership score of at least ten.
So basically, "Ask your GM".
.... Sorta... But isn't it more helpful to actually answer the question with the answer the books say?
Antipaladins can get a permanent summon monster companion at level 5 and hell hounds are listed as an alternate summon monster II. The alignment is all wrong but you might be able to reskin something with your DM.
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If you're open to third party material, there's some information on Hell Hound mounts (as well as some other equally cool exotic mounts) in this book here. It's a great book for Cavaliers in general.
.... Sorta... But isn't it more helpful to actually answer the question with the answer the books say?
Not when the books don't help. Leadership has suggested power levels for cohorts at every level, and in my very first post I told him that. But even then, it is still subject to GM approval. You can't just be a level 10 character and say "Oh and I have a hellhound now" without getting GM approval.
Antipaladins can get a permanent summon monster companion at level 5 and hell hounds are listed as an alternate summon monster II. The alignment is all wrong but you might be able to reskin something with your DM.
The Tyrant archetype for Antipaladin in Ultimate Intrigue is basically a carbon copy Antipaladin with a LE alignment.
Antipaladins can get a permanent summon monster companion at level 5 and hell hounds are listed as an alternate summon monster II. The alignment is all wrong but you might be able to reskin something with your DM.The Tyrant archetype for Antipaladin in Ultimate Intrigue is basically a carbon copy Antipaladin with a LE alignment.
Insinuator from Agents of Evil would also work (but loses spell casting).
Not when the books don't help. Leadership has suggested power levels for cohorts at every level, and in my very first post I told him that. But even then, it is still subject to GM approval. You can't just be a level 10 character and say "Oh and I have a hellhound now" without getting GM approval.
But since the same is true for basically every rule element in the game, it doesn't realm merit special mention in this case.
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Yes, leadership absolutely does. Leadership is a case where you must get GM approval before you do anything with it.
Not when the books don't help.
Yes they do, they directly answer his question....
Leadership has suggested power levels for cohorts at every level, and in my very first post I told him that.
But you didn't say what it actually was.
But even then, it is still subject to GM approval. You can't just be a level 10 character and say "Oh and I have a hellhound now" without getting GM approval.
That's fine. Still could have answered his question and said that.
I...did. Leadership, right there, first post. Try reading it.