| Morbidwarrior |
I've looked all over for details around Cleric and Wizard counter spell and I am not finding my info. I am specifically looking for whether or not a wizard can counter a cleric spell or vice versa?
Also, if you have a staff with Dispel Magic in it, could you use that spell in the staff to counter a spell potentially?
Thanks!
| Morbidwarrior |
Clearly I am not good at looking this info up, or I read to quickly and skip over it.
That is interesting about a staff versus wand. I did not know that. Is that only for dispel/counterspelling or does the staff use your caster level for everything?
Thanks again!
| Blymurkla |
Morbidwarrior wrote:Also, if you have a staff with Dispel Magic in it, could you use that spell in the staff to counter a spell potentially?Absolutely. Since staves use the wielder's caster level this can work well (as opposed to a wand of dispel magic, which would just suck).
Why would I wand suck?
Sure, your every day run of the mill wand of dispel magic is only caster level 2. But there's no stopping making wands with higher caster levels, is there? Sure, it costs a lot more, but its possible to have a wand of dispel magic with CL 4. And even higher, I believe.Or am I missing something?
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Clearly I am not good at looking this info up, or I read to quickly and skip over it.
That is interesting about a staff versus wand. I did not know that. Is that only for dispel/counterspelling or does the staff use your caster level for everything?
Thanks again!
Using Staves: Staves use the wielder's ability score and relevant feats to set the DC for saves against their spells. Unlike with other sorts of magic items, the wielder can use his caster level when activating the power of a staff if it's higher than the caster level of the staff.
Again from the PRD ;) Though don't sweat it, I miss stuff myself all the time.
| Fuzzy-Wuzzy |
Why would I wand suck?
Sure, your every day run of the mill wand of dispel magic is only caster level 2. But there's no stopping making wands with higher caster levels, is there? Sure, it costs a lot more, but its possible to have a wand of dispel magic with CL 4. And even higher, I believe.
Or am I missing something?
No, you're correct, you could get a wand made with really high CL (outside PFS), but it'd be expensive as hell. The staff is the way to go.
Also, when countering a divine spell, are there any spell crafting penalties for identifying the divine spell (as a wizard)?
No. In fact you don't have to be a caster at all to use Spellcraft to identify a spell as it is being cast, though obviously you won't be able to counterspell it unless you UMD a staff/wand of dispel magic or something.
| Morbidwarrior |
Another question: as it relates to the Arcanist exploit counter spelling: if I take the feats to get Parry Spell, can that be used in conjunction with the Arcanist counter spell?
Arcanist actually make counter spelling viable. It's pretty cool!