You would---it's hardly the only way to get both---except the vermin domain is for druids, not clerics.
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?
Vermin is a cleric domain added in the Inner Sea Monster Codex.
ok. I think you would get both unless there is a rule that says you can only have an animal companion or a familiar.
Sorry, something seemed off so I pulled out the actual book and it lists Vermin under Druid Domains not cleric. The site must be mistaken. While it's possible to for a cleric to take a druid domain if they are "nature themed", that's wandering into 'ask your dm' territory.
There is also a girtablilu feat for clerics to swap out normal domains for it but of course you have to be girtablilu. So no PC there.
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?Vermin is a cleric domain added in the Inner Sea Monster Codex.
Is there text somewhere that says that's accessible to clerics? The text you linked to only talks of druid levels. Plus Archives of Nethys puts in under druids but not clerics. Maybe I'm just confused.
EDIT: See, this is why Archives of Nethys beats d20pfsrd ;-)
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?Vermin is a cleric domain added in the Inner Sea Monster Codex.
Is there text somewhere that says that's accessible to clerics? The text you linked to only talks of druid levels. Plus Archives of Nethys puts in under druids but not clerics. Maybe I'm just confused.
EDIT: See, this is why Archives of Nethys beats d20pfsrd ;-)
LOL I normally check Nethys first too but it timed out on me when I went to check so I went to the other.
On the "accessible to clerics?": there IS the following text. "Other nature-themed classes with access to domains may select an animal or terrain domain in place of a regular domain." So if you can convince your Dm that you're "nature-themed", you can do it.
Godless clerics. In other words, you can totally justify a Madness/Luck based cleric.
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?Vermin is a cleric domain added in the Inner Sea Monster Codex.
Is there text somewhere that says that's accessible to clerics? The text you linked to only talks of druid levels. Plus Archives of Nethys puts in under druids but not clerics. Maybe I'm just confused.
EDIT: See, this is why Archives of Nethys beats d20pfsrd ;-)
The OP was thinking that the animal domain granted you an effective druid level, but it only grants you druid levels for the purposes of an animal companion. A GM could extend it to a familiar, but it is not written that way.
PS: Admittedly I read it that way the first time also.
How are you getting a familiar with only cleric levels?Vermin is a cleric domain added in the Inner Sea Monster Codex.
Is there text somewhere that says that's accessible to clerics? The text you linked to only talks of druid levels. Plus Archives of Nethys puts in under druids but not clerics. Maybe I'm just confused.
EDIT: See, this is why Archives of Nethys beats d20pfsrd ;-)
LOL I normally check Nethys first too but it timed out on me when I went to check so I went to the other.
On the "accessible to clerics?": there IS the following text. "Other nature-themed classes with access to domains may select an animal or terrain domain in place of a regular domain." So if you can convince your Dm that you're "nature-themed", you can do it.
It specifies "nature-themed classes" rather than "nature-themed characters", and clerics are not generally considered a nature-themed class.
I'm fairly sure that any character concept that involves a cleric venerating nature above any god would be better fitted to a druid, anyway
A godless cleric that worships nature could indeed be "nature-themed". it's also hard to call a cleric that worships a god with nature in their Areas of Concern as 'non-nature based'. Something like the Green Faith Marshal archetype is a good example an archetype turning a class more nature focused.
This is a DM matter though, so no matter how much you think a character should be a druid instead, it'd be up to the DM in the end.
The Vermin domain thing is a mistake - AON gives the correct info!
I think a "nature themed class" depends strictly on the "class", not the concept or character.
I think a "nature themed class" depends strictly on the "class", not the concept or character.
It would seem odd that a cleric that worshiped a god of nature, like Gozreh, isn't a "nature themed class". Or an inquisitor for that matter, like a Green Faith Marshal. Any class that has any nature options could be nature themed IMO.
It would seem odd that a cleric that worshiped a god of nature, like Gozreh, isn't a "nature themed class". Or an inquisitor for that matter, like a Green Faith Marshal. Any class that has any nature options could be nature themed IMO.I think a "nature themed class" depends strictly on the "class", not the concept or character.
The class itself would have to be designed around nature like a druid or hunter to be a nature themed "class" IMHO. Now they could have meant "character" and wrote class, but I am not sure. I guess it could be FAQ'd since "nature themed class" is not exactly defined anywhere.
For myself, I have a hard time thinking it has to be a "designed around nature" as they would most likely already have access to it without the proviso. For instance, Green Faith Marshal has it built in. Druids have it built in. So to me, it only makes sense if it's not limited to them.
As to a FAQ, someone could if they wished. While I wouldn't mind finding out the answer, it seems a rare enough situation that I can live with it being a 'ask you DM' sort of thing.