Hello all,
Below is the description for the Dimensional Dervish feat:
Benefit: You can take a full-attack action, activating abundant step or casting dimension door as a swift action. If you do, you can teleport up to twice your speed (up to the maximum distance allowed by the spell or ability), dividing this teleportation into increments you use before your first attack, between each attack, and after your last attack. You must teleport at least 5 feet each time you teleport.
As a Magus is it legal to be able to,
1.Use swift action to cast DD
2.Activate full-round action spell combat, incurring -2 to hit
3.Cast Frostbite/Chill Touch/or choose your own strikes per CL spell
4. Teleport and Spellstrike attack
5. Teleport and remaining attacks with remaining charges on weapon until you're out of attacks for that round
If I'm interpreting it correctly it seems like it should work but I'm not entirely sure. Any feedback would be appreciated~
Dimensional Dervish specifies a full-attack action while Spell Combat is a full-round action and thus they are incompatible. While certain full-attack modifiers work with spell comat, Dimensional Dervish is more a separate action than a modifier.
Spell Combat counts as a full attack action, so I'd say it would work.
Dimensional Dervish specifies a full-attack action while Spell Combat is a full-round action and thus they are incompatible. While certain full-attack modifiers work with spell comat, Dimensional Dervish is more a separate action than a modifier.
Rulings on Haste would say otherwise. Spell Combat counts as a full attack.
That FAQ doesn't really address Dimensional Dervish as a I noted.
The Dev. team is not going to explicitly list every feat and spell that uses an identical wording/interaction.
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As a Magus is it legal to be able to,1.Use swift action to cast DD
T do that you need Quickened Magic or a way to memorize a quickened DD as a 6th level spell. Both things are possible, but become possible only at level 15+.
At that level the whole combination is reasonable.
RAW there is a possible problem, as show by Calth . The FAQ seem to cover for that, but it is not 100% certain that it is applicable.
As usual, ask your GM. I would allow it as we are speaking of a level 15+ character.
T do that you need Quickened Magic or a way to memorize a quickened DD as a 6th level spell. Both things are possible, but become possible only at level 15+.
As a Magus is it legal to be able to,1.Use swift action to cast DD
It is enabled by the Dimensional Dervish feat.
I don't see how the FAQ would not apply to Dimensional Dervish. The feat says, you can cast Dimension Door as a Swift Action and make a full attack action, which means it modifies the Full Attack rather than counting as its own Full Round Action. The FAQ clarified that Spell Combat counts as a Full Attack action, therefore Dimensional Dervish can be used with Spell Combat in place of the Full Attack.
I wouldn't even consider it overpowered given the cost in feats, the expenditure of a fourth-level spell as a Magus, and the fact that the whole combo is doable at level 15 at the earliest (or 10 with retraining shenanigans, which is still about the point other classes get Pounce).
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T do that you need Quickened Magic or a way to memorize a quickened DD as a 6th level spell. Both things are possible, but become possible only at level 15+.
As a Magus is it legal to be able to,1.Use swift action to cast DD
It is enabled by the Dimensional Dervish feat.
I don't see how the FAQ would not apply to Dimensional Dervish. The feat says, you can cast Dimension Door as a Swift Action and make a full attack action, which means it modifies the Full Attack rather than counting as its own Full Round Action. The FAQ clarified that Spell Combat counts as a Full Attack action, therefore Dimensional Dervish can be used with Spell Combat in place of the Full Attack.
I wouldn't even consider it overpowered given the cost in feats, the expenditure of a fourth-level spell as a Magus, and the fact that the whole combo is doable at level 15 at the earliest (or 10 with retraining shenanigans, which is still about the point other classes get Pounce).
Benefit: You can take a full-attack action, activating abundant step or casting dimension door as a swift action. If you do, you can teleport up to twice your speed ....
It don't give you the ability to cast dimension door as a swift action, the ability activate [b]if[b] you cast dimension door as a swift action.
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Yeah, pretty sure the feat is supposed to function.
I've never seen anyone read it that way, actually, and wouldn't even think about ruling it any other way.
It's pretty clearly under the benefit section of the feat, which means that you are allowed to do what the feat says you are allowed to do.
So, yeah. This allows you to swift action Dimension Door then full-attack, without Quicken Spell.
As to the original question, everything seems to be in order.
Given the investment and the limited number of times per day you'll be able to pull this off (at least a 4th level spell slot and whatever spell you cast, plus the feats to be able to pull this off), I see no balance issues in allowing this to function as it seems to.
It don't give you the ability to cast dimension door as a swift action, the ability activate [b]if[b] you cast dimension door as a swift action.
Benefit: casting dimension door as a swift action.
You can cast Dimension Door as a swift action.
If you do, you can teleport up to twice your speed ....
allowing you too .....
T do that you need Quickened Magic or a way to memorize a quickened DD as a 6th level spell. Both things are possible, but become possible only at level 15+.
As a Magus is it legal to be able to,1.Use swift action to cast DD
It is enabled by the Dimensional Dervish feat.
I don't see how the FAQ would not apply to Dimensional Dervish. The feat says, you can cast Dimension Door as a Swift Action and make a full attack action, which means it modifies the Full Attack rather than counting as its own Full Round Action. The FAQ clarified that Spell Combat counts as a Full Attack action, therefore Dimensional Dervish can be used with Spell Combat in place of the Full Attack.
I wouldn't even consider it overpowered given the cost in feats, the expenditure of a fourth-level spell as a Magus, and the fact that the whole combo is doable at level 15 at the earliest (or 10 with retraining shenanigans, which is still about the point other classes get Pounce).
Benefit: You can take a full-attack action, activating abundant step or casting dimension door as a swift action. If you do, you can teleport up to twice your speed ....It don't give you the ability to cast dimension door as a swift action, the ability activate [b]if[b] you cast dimension door as a swift action.
You're missing the point, the feat includes the ability, as casting Dimension Door as a swift action is not listed as a prerequisite.
T do that you need Quickened Magic or a way to memorize a quickened DD as a 6th level spell. Both things are possible, but become possible only at level 15+.
As a Magus is it legal to be able to,1.Use swift action to cast DD
It is enabled by the Dimensional Dervish feat.
I don't see how the FAQ would not apply to Dimensional Dervish. The feat says, you can cast Dimension Door as a Swift Action and make a full attack action, which means it modifies the Full Attack rather than counting as its own Full Round Action. The FAQ clarified that Spell Combat counts as a Full Attack action, therefore Dimensional Dervish can be used with Spell Combat in place of the Full Attack.
I wouldn't even consider it overpowered given the cost in feats, the expenditure of a fourth-level spell as a Magus, and the fact that the whole combo is doable at level 15 at the earliest (or 10 with retraining shenanigans, which is still about the point other classes get Pounce).
Benefit: You can take a full-attack action, activating abundant step or casting dimension door as a swift action. If you do, you can teleport up to twice your speed ....It don't give you the ability to cast dimension door as a swift action, the ability activate [b]if[b] you cast dimension door as a swift action.
If that were the case, it would say "If you take a full-attack action, activating abundant step or casting dimension door as a swift action" rather than "You can" do the same.