2-1B: The Problem with Dragons reward clarification

[Anaba Boeska]

"The party draws one of each type of boon other than loot from the game box."

Okay, then what? Do players just get the typical deck upgrade, but no actual reward?

This does not make sense to me, since every scenario I've played to date gives you a card or unlock beyond the deck upgrade.

Please clarify and thanks!

[Hawkmoon269]

See this thread. In particular the comments by Keith and Vic.

[Anaba Boeska]

Thanks for the link, however it doesn't clarify anything. If the intent is to add one of each boon at the end for additional choices, that's not what it says to do, and quite frankly, 1 card for that scenario is a real crappy reward...

It would be awesome if someone could actually clarify or errata the reward, as it's not at all clear what to do.

[Hawkmoon269]

You are welcome. And, I'm not trying to be a jerk here, but I think it does clarify it.

Vic Wertz wrote:

We made a clarification on "the box" in the Guide. It now says:

Guide 3.0 wrote:

When anything refers to “the box,” it always means the game box, except in the case of rewards. If a reward refers simply to “the box,” in Adventure Card Guild play, it means your Class Deck box. If a reward refers to the "game box,” it means the game box.

And the way Tanis explained it to me is what Keith said: the party collectively draws the cards which adds to the pool of possible deck upgrades. Which is, I believe, accurately explained with the current wording.

Vic says that, yes, the reward is that an additional card of each type is drawn from the game box and becomes part of the pool of possible deck upgrades.

I'm not disagreeing with your opinion that it isn't clear enough or that you think it is a crappy reward, but Vic does clarify the intent.

You said...

You wrote:

It would be awesome if someone could actually clarify or errata the reward, as it's not at all clear what to do.

So, it has been clarified. Granted, there is no errata, but you asked for either clarification or errata. Did you really intend to more simply ask that the PDF be updated (i.e. just an errata)? Are you saying that it is unclear enough that the wording should be changed to make it more clear? Maybe I just misunderstood.

[Anaba Boeska]

Considering there are an additional 10+ comments after it was "clarified" and given that the answers given are preceded by caveats, someone really needs to clearly spell out in one syllable words what the intent of the reward is.

I don't mean to be sarcastic, but when there were 5 of us reading this after playing the scenario with a combined seven college degrees and were unable to figure out what it really intended, the wording is terrible.

Likewise, the last post on the link has not been clarified after two weeks...

[elcoderdude]

I did ask on that thread for confirmation that each party member only gets a single deck upgrade, rather than two, which is usually the case when you draw cards for a scenario award.

Vic's response implies that you only get a single deck upgrade from the scenario. This is such an unusually poor reward, it would be nice to get explicit confirmation this is the case.

[Keith Richmond]

For reference, I've already submitted a ticket to get this clarified in the pdf.

[Anaba Boeska]

elcoderdude wrote:

I did ask on that thread for confirmation that each party member only gets a single deck upgrade, rather than two, which is usually the case when you draw cards for a scenario award.

Vic's response implies that you only get a single deck upgrade from the scenario. This is such an unusually poor reward, it would be nice to get explicit confirmation this is the case.

My point is that the reward text is unclear.

I am real happy that they added "The Box" clarification on page 9 of the version 3.0 rules and further state on page 9 regarding Scenario Rewards that you, "...take a random card of the same type from you CLASS DECK BOX." Per the rules document, rewards don't come from the "Game Box" but then in the 2nd scenario to be release this season, it breaks this rule if that is the intent.

And, mathematically, taking a "Reward" from "the Game Box" is likely to be useless as 90% of the cards drawn in adventure path 1 will be Basic. Well, other than Blessings, as there seems to be a total lack of blessings to be gained so far...

[Anaba Boeska]

Keith Richmond wrote:

For reference, I've already submitted a ticket to get this clarified in the pdf.

Thank you! I was in the middle of writing my last post at the time you left this note =)

[zeroth_hour2]

Keith Richmond wrote:

For reference, I've already submitted a ticket to get this clarified in the pdf.

I'm still a little tickled that the way your process for bugfixing and features go are almost exactly the same as the way mine does.