First time caster(sorcerer),rate the spells!

[Genosoppai]

Hi all,this is the first time i go for a caster class and Im completely lost in the spellbook,also don't know what bloodlines,feat,traits are good for a caster... So i want to ask you if you could link/post me a bunch of good spells for every level(about 8) and how would you build a sorc
My PB is 15,all paizo material is available :V

[Glord Funkelhand]

What do you want to play?

While you can min/max, normally you would start by getting an idea for the character you want to play, and then continue by choosing spells that would work for the character/ character concept.

[Genosoppai]

Glord Funkelhand wrote:

What do you want to play?

While you can min/max, normally you would start by getting an idea for the character you want to play, and then continue by choosing spells that would work for the character/ character concept.

No i don't want to min/max,i just want to play a sorcerer for getting used to spellcasting and learn more from it..I started with the idea of playing a mind controlling mage that subdue all to his mental power,or something like this...someone told me to go for psychic but i found a little bit difficult for a first time caster and i don't want to mess up xD. However I like more the controlling and save or suck part of a caster instead of the blasting part

[The Inheritor]

Impossible sorcerer Bloodline..

Spell Focus - (Enchantment) is your best friend.

[ElMustacho]

The fey bloodline gives a +2 to the DC of the compulsion subschool.
Also, grab a few non-controlling spells once a while, just not to be useless when you meet undeads, oozes and whatever has immunity to mind affecting effects.
Alternatively, invest in metamagic feats and rods to bypass type immunity and continue to control stuff.

[Genosoppai]

The Inheritor wrote:

Impossible sorcerer Bloodline..

Spell Focus - (Enchantment) is your best friend.

What do you think about the psychic bloodline? Sounds it good for my idea?

ElMustacho wrote:

The fey bloodline gives a +2 to the DC of the compulsion subschool.

Also, grab a few non-controlling spells once a while, just not to be useless when you meet undeads, oozes and whatever has immunity to mind affecting effects.
Alternatively, invest in metamagic feats and rods to bypass type immunity and continue to control stuff.

I'll do it!What feat would you advise to take?

I think ill go for human,level 5 sorc...Under "The Inheritor" advice ill surely take Spell focus and maybe quickened spell for action economy,what should i take then?

[Casual Viking]

Genosoppai wrote:

The Inheritor wrote:

Impossible sorcerer Bloodline..

Spell Focus - (Enchantment) is your best friend.

What do you think about the psychic bloodline? Sounds it good for my idea?

ElMustacho wrote:

The fey bloodline gives a +2 to the DC of the compulsion subschool.

Also, grab a few non-controlling spells once a while, just not to be useless when you meet undeads, oozes and whatever has immunity to mind affecting effects.
Alternatively, invest in metamagic feats and rods to bypass type immunity and continue to control stuff.

I'll do it!What feat would you advise to take?

I think ill go for human,level 5 sorc...Under "The Inheritor" advice ill surely take Spell focus and maybe quickened spell for action economy,what should i take then?

I can't recommend Psychic Bloodline. Among other reasons, the bloodline spells will be unfamiliar to your tablemates, and the details of psychic casting can be...fiddly. Fey is better for a simple mind control focused sorcerer. That said, Psychic Bloodline is not terrible, by all means feel free to take it.

Quickened Spell does nothing for you at level 5. It modifies the spell level required by +4, meaning that a quickened 1. level spell requires you to spend a 5th level spell slot, of which you have none at level 5.

Human Fey Sorcerer 5
Str 7
Dex 12
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 8
Cha 18+2 racial +1 at level 4.

Feats: Spell Focus (Enchantment), Bouncing Spell, Improved Initiative, Toughness. (or whatever tickles your fancy. You don't need to worry too much about your feats.
Traits: Irrepressible, Magical Lineage (Hideous Laughter)
Spells Known:
0: Detect Magic, Light, whatever.
1: Entangle, Grease (all-round awesome control/utility spell), Vanish (emergency defense spell), Chill Touch (mostly for use against undead), magic missile/shocking grasp (for a bit of blasting)
2: Hideous Laughter, Glitterdust, Create Pit.

Your main gun is Bouncing Hideous Laughter as a full-round action, and you have plenty of other control spells. Spend 5.000 gp on a Sorcerer's Robe to add your laughing touch to a spell you cast 3/day.

[Fruian Thistlefoot]

Some good Spells. This is not all the good ones but it has lots of popular choices. Picking the right balance of spells is also a challenge for a new character. But good luck in your endeavor.

0- Breeze, Read Magic, Detect Magic, Message, Prestidigitation, Acid Splash, Ghost Sound

1- Grease, Charm Person, Color Spray (Trade out after level 6), Shield, Enlarge Person (Best on Scrolls), Blood Money (Good Mid to late Game), Ray of Enfeeblement,

2- Glitter Dust, Create Pit, Mirror Image, Defending Bone, Communal Protection from Evil, Aggressive Thundercloud/Flaming Sphere, Invisibility, Command Undead, Cat's Grace

3- Haste, Fly, Summon Monster 3, Dispel Magic, Communal Resist Energy, Fireball,

4- Summon Monster 4, Enervation, Wall of Fire, Acid Pit, Black Tentacles, Fear,

5- Cloud Kill, Teleport, Permanency (For prepared casters), Magic Jar, Shadow Evocation (so versatile great for Spontaneous Casters), Wall of Force, Life Bubble, Summon Monster 5, Stoneskin, Communal, Undead Anatomy 2 (Great Utility and protection.)

6- Greater Dispel Magic, Chains of Light, Contingency, Sirocco, Form of the Dragon 1, Disintegrate,

7- Limited Wish (Pair with Blood Money and a Wand of Lesser restoration), Grasping Hand, Force Cage, Control Undead, Waves of Exhaustion, Plane Shift

8- Prismatic Wall, Maze, Create Demiplane, Clenched Fist, Greater shadow Evocation, Form of the Dragon 3, Polymorph any object, Mind Blank, Protection from spells, Summon monster 8

9- Wish, Gate, Time Stop, Shape Change, Dominate Monster,

[ElMustacho]

I also suggest playing a kitsune. They have a racial bonus to enchantment DC, and their favoured class bonus for sorcerer is just too good (1/4 of your level goes to enchantment DC). You can also assume the form of a specific human (or any human if you pick a feat).
For feat you may go for Spell Focus (and greater), Ancient draconic (if you speak in draconic while casting a spell and the target has a language and intelligence, you get around the language dependent spell descriptor) and the feats for which you can target vermin, oozes, animals, undead and plants (not sure about this) with mind affecting spells.
It's totally possible to hit DC 23 on a charm person by level 5 (10 base + 6 charisma (17 base + 2 racial + 1 lv4 + 2 headband) + 2 feats + 1 racial + 2 bloodline + 1 favoured class + 1 spell level).