
Black.k.9 |

So, as I understand it, your Alignment Aura (Good/Evil) increases in power for every level you possess of a Divine Class (Paladin/Cleric).
This means that a 3rd-level Paladin has an Aura of Good power of 3 (moderate).
Outsiders also get his Alignment Power level equal to the HD they possess.
Under this, do Paladin/Cleric levels stack with outsider HD to produce a more powerful Arua? Does a 3rd-level Aasimar Paladin of Iomedae have an Aura of Good power of 6 (Strong) or 3 (Moderate)?

Gilfalas |

So, as I understand it, your Alignment Aura (Good/Evil) increases in power for every level you possess of a Divine Class (Paladin/Cleric).
This means that a 3rd-level Paladin has an Aura of Good power of 3 (moderate).
Outsiders also get his Alignment Power level equal to the HD they possess.
Under this, do Paladin/Cleric levels stack with outsider HD to produce a more powerful Arua? Does a 3rd-level Aasimar Paladin of Iomedae have an Aura of Good power of 6 (Strong) or 3 (Moderate)?
I am not 100% positive that this is directly addressed in the rules.- Edit: Voideternal below has it right- Defaulting back to the normal stacking guidelines I would presume that the higher aura would be detected, not that they would stack.

voideternal |
You can sense the presence of evil. The amount of information revealed depends on how long you study a particular area or subject.
1st Round: Presence or absence of evil.
2nd Round: Number of evil auras (creatures, objects, or spells) in the area and the power of the most potent evil aura present.
If you are of good alignment, and the strongest evil aura's power is overwhelming (see below), and the HD or level of the aura's source is at least twice your character level, you are stunned for 1 round and the spell ends.
3rd Round: The power and location of each aura. If an aura is outside your line of sight, then you discern its direction but not its exact location.
Aura Power: An evil aura's power depends on the type of evil creature or object that you're detecting and its HD, caster level, or (in the case of a cleric) class level; see the table below. If an aura falls into more than one strength category, the spell indicates the stronger of the two.
Lingering Aura: An evil aura lingers after its original source dissipates (in the case of a spell) or is destroyed (in the case of a creature or magic item). If detect evil is cast and directed at such a location, the spell indicates an aura strength of dim (even weaker than a faint aura). How long the aura lingers at this dim level depends on its original power:
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Animals, traps, poisons, and other potential perils are not evil, and as such this spell does not detect them. Creatures with actively evil intents count as evil creatures for the purpose of this spell.
Each round, you can turn to detect evil in a new area. The spell can penetrate barriers, but 1 foot of stone, 1 inch of common metal, a thin sheet of lead, or 3 feet of wood or dirt blocks it.
I believe you should choose the highest aura for a given category.
For example, a LG level 7 human paladin is a paladin of an aligned deity, but is also an aligned creature.
According to aligned creature, the level 7 human paladin has 7HD so is 'Faint'.
According to cleric/paladin, the level 7 human paladin has 7 class levels so is 'Strong'.
Finally, pick the higher of the two categories (Strong, from 7 paladin). Don't add the results together or anything. They aren't meant to be added.
For the OP's example, class level 3 paladin and 3 HD outsider are both 'Moderate' so should be 'Moderate'.

Black.k.9 |

For the OP's example, class level 3 paladin and 3 HD outsider are both 'Moderate' so should be 'Moderate'.
Too bad, I thought by the time an Aasimar Paladin was level 6, evil creatures would be stunned for getting too close (overpowering Aura).
Oh well, thanks for letting me know.

Emo Duck |

Here I come to raise a dead thread and follow up with another corner case: What happens when outsiders with alignment subtypes have conflicting auras from other sources?
In my current game, one PC is a redeemed succubus (from Dreamscarred Press's 'Pinnacle and Pit' supplement) whose alignment is chaotic good. At level 5, her outsider alignment subtypes gives her Strong auras of Evil and Chaos, but there's also a Faint aura of Good due to her character alignment. Do these interact, or will the respective Detect X spells detect the auras independently?
Conversely, there's also an Erinyes character (another DSP creation) with antipaladin levels (Tyrant archetype) and a lawful evil alignment. So she has two evil auras from her subtype and class, as well as two lawful auras from her subtype and alignment.

Chemlak |

If an aura falls into more than one strength category, the spell indicates the stronger of the two.
Just to expand: Detect Evil doesn't care about Good, Lawful, or Chaotic auras. Likewise, Detect Good doesn't care about Evil, Lawful, or Chaotic auras. They don't interact.
Also, Aligned outsider isn't outsider with subtype. Subtype just forces an interaction with Detect spells.
Favourite example: Redeemed LG Succubus with [Chaotic] and [Evil] subtypes. Has strong Lawful, Good, Chaotic, and Evil auras.

Linea Lirondottir |

What about the case of a Magaambyan Initiate 6/Magaambyan Arcanist 10? Is that character's Aura of Good equal to a Cleric 16 or a Cleric 10?
On one hand, it doesn't say that they stack. On the other, the Magaambyan Initiate is clearly intended to be combined with the Magaambyan Arcanist, and it seems odd that a Magaambyan Initiate 16 would have a stronger Aura of Good than one who went into the prestige class.

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voideternal is wrong, clerics and paladins have their own separate line in the detect evil chart matching an aligned outsider. In this case an assimar paladin would have the same aura strength from both class levels and HD however if they multiclassed out of paladin they would then use their HD for aura strength.

Ashram |

voideternal is wrong, clerics and paladins have their own separate line in the detect evil chart matching an aligned outsider. In this case an assimar paladin would have the same aura strength from both class levels and HD however if they multiclassed out of paladin they would then use their HD for aura strength.
Erm, what? Aasimar do not have the [Good] subtype, so if said aasimar was in fact a good-aligned cleric or paladin, their class levels and HD would NOT be the same as far as aura strength. An aasimar paladin 2 would not radiate any aura of Law or Good, due to only having 2 HD, but because they are a paladin, they would radiate moderate Good.