Help with feat choices


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Hello patjfinder community I'm making a antipaladin half-Orc my his stats are
18, 10,14, 8, 12, 16
I'm looking for sugestions on feats

Lvl 1 power attack

Lvl 3 cleave or weapon focus (endurance/diehard from a Lvl in fighter)

Lvl 5 great cleave or dazzling display

Lvl 7 deathless initiate

Lvl 9?

Lvl 11?

I'm looking for advice on where I should go full intimidate or go for cleave and get some aoe sorta


The plan is for 1 Lvl in oracle for cha to ac and reflex, and 1 Lvl in fighter unbreakable for endurance/diehard and the rest in anti paladin

Grand Lodge

I'm not a fan of D. Display. I prefer C. Smash + Power attack because it is better for action economy. At least your still doing damage in the same round.

Cleave is freaking Terrible in PF after level 6. Cleaving Finish is what You need to make it half decent.

Deathless Initiate is Ok...but it is Very weak if you consider the massive Chain of feat taxes (Endurance....really).


That's why I'm taking a Lvl of fighter because I can get them both for free, half orcs have an alternative racial trait that gives them endurance for free but I'd have to pick up diehard somewhere

Grand Lodge

Declindgrunt wrote:
That's why I'm taking a Lvl of fighter because I can get them both for free, half orcs have an alternative racial trait that gives them endurance for free but I'd have to pick up diehard somewhere

I'm aware of the feats...I use both on my Bloodrager build cause it uses Fast Healer and gains (Su) Fast healing.

You don't need them cause after you get there and spent the investment you will regret the entire feat chain.

Its also not worth Dipping 2 classes. You would do fine with the Oracle dip but I do not recommend both. Your CL will be -6


If you're dipping into Oracle, also take Noble Scion at level 1. You can dump DEX to 8 if you're using the Noble Scion feat.


Then I'd have to wait until Lvl 3 for power attack

Grand Lodge

Declindgrunt wrote:
Then I'd have to wait until Lvl 3 for power attack

I've waited till 6 for PA before...its not THAT OMG necessary level 1 feat. Sure Level 5 was pretty hellish but I still did it.


Yep, perfectly valid to just skip Power Attack at level 1. The extra damage is nice (Read: Devastating to your foes and certain to cause his women/men to lament), but penalties at early levels are a tad... annoying at times. However, going first never gets old, and a Charisma heavy build will love getting the boost Noble Scion of War gives. But onto the rest!

Great Cleave is a bad choice. Don't do it. If you like Deathless Initiate, then go for it, though I echo the "Don't do the double dipping" opinion. Either go Oracle or Fighter, not both. Also, I'm noticing a critical lack of Furious Focus in your feats, which you should remedy as soon as possible.


Is furious focus really that good? I mean your first attack is at its highest and unless your going viral strike

Grand Lodge

Furious Focus is good on any character using Vital strike or making a single attack (Like lancer) or under Level 6.

I prefer Weapon Focus as it applies to all iterative attacks and your CMB with that weapon.

Some people really like Furious focus tho. I'm a conditional lover of the feat.


I will say that I tend to play in campaigns where debuffing spells are very common casts for whatever we fight, and like to help my odds to hit as a matter of course because of this. This contributes to my love of Furious Focus, as does the fact that as a big zweihander guy, there's not really many feats I need to take, meaning that Furious Focus makes good padding that I know I won't regret.


Yeah, Furious Focus is fantastic.

Note, it only works on two-handed weapon attacks, so even at BAB +1, that's a free +3 damage, for every two-handed weapon attack, granted its the first in the round.

For every +4 after BAB +1, it just gets better and better.


so currently im changing my stats to 18, 8, 14, 10, 12, 16

and my first lvl feat is now noble scion of war, im gonna pick up power attack at lvl 3 so any suggestions for my feats beyond that? weapons focus/dazziling display tree, sunder maybe? cleave? im open to sugestions

Grand Lodge

Cornugon Smash It's a free action and you plan to be power attacking. As a Half-orc you get a bonus to intimidate.

Improved Critical is always a good pick.

Extra traits to grab UMD as a skill. Another good one is Fate's Favored paired with a Jingasa and Luck Stone.


Im thinking maybe getting martial focus and weapon material mastery (from the weapons masters book) since I plan on using a falchion (hopefully adamantite someday) for my lvl 7 and 9 feat.

also yea I took sacred tattoo so fates favored would be nice the only reason I didnt take it was because I had to chose a campaign trait (it gives +2 to intimidate) and I really wanted perception so i took a trait for that


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