| john kilmer |
hey everyone,
like the subject says i am looking for advice on causing a cave-in of a cave 60ft wide and 60ft tall.
there is a white dragon in this cave. The objective is to lure the dragon out, then set off a cave-in to stop the dragon from getting back in, so the party has time to gather up the treasure hoard and escape with a dimension door.
What would you recommend to cause this cave-in? some kind of explosives? how exactly would the rules work for an explosion like this?
any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
| Joey Cote |
Extended duration wall of force or a few walls of stone at the entrance is probably going to work a lot better then trying to cause a cave in. If the cave is stable stone then it would be extremely difficult, most magic spells that aren't designed to effect stone just aren't very effective at damaging it.
And ignore what I said if you mean the cave entrance is 60x60, no wall is going to be big enough.
| Sarrah |
hey everyone,
like the subject says i am looking for advice on causing a cave-in of a cave 60ft wide and 60ft tall.
there is a white dragon in this cave. The objective is to lure the dragon out, then set off a cave-in to stop the dragon from getting back in, so the party has time to gather up the treasure hoard and escape with a dimension door.
What would you recommend to cause this cave-in? some kind of explosives? how exactly would the rules work for an explosion like this?
any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
Hello. I live near real life caves and I've gone spelunking. Most decent size caves have more than 1 entrance irl. If a dragon has lived there for multiple years, the dragon likely knows all the entrances.
Personally, I'm having trouble imagining the explosion required to cause a cave in big enough to block a 60 x 60 foot entrance. In terms of game rules, the spell is a cleric spell called stone shape at which you shape the stones on the roof of the cave to become no longer attached. Due to the size of the hole, (if I were the gm) I would require a high knowledge engineering check to go along with that spell to cause the correct size rocks and spaces from which the rocks come to cause a proper cave in.
| Kayerloth |
Most of the spells at least that might work to accomplish this are relatively high level.
Move Earth - might move a large volume of soil into the mouth of the cave.
Earthquake - either within the cave or potential to cause a landslide to block the entrance (with the side benefit of sealing up any entrance/exits the party might not be aware of. As Sarrah is quite correct the likelyhood of additional openings is quite high. As an intelligent dragon I certainly wouldn't pick a cave network with only one way in and out.
Transmute Rock to Mud - landslide or collapse potential
Summon an Elemental to do the dirty work.