Creatures with the web ability can use webs to support themselves and up to one additional creature of the same size. In addition, such creatures can throw a web up to eight times per day. This is similar to an attack with a net but has a maximum range of 50 feet, with a range increment of 10 feet, and is effective against targets up to one size category larger than the web spinner. An entangled creature can escape with a successful Escape Artist check or burst the web with a Strength check. Both are standard actions with a DC equal to 10 + 1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s Con modifier. Attempts to burst a web by those caught in it take a –4 penalty.
When wildshape is used to get the web ability, how many times can a druid use it?
- 8/day
- 8/use of wildshape
- unlimited
- some other times/day
As many times/ as often as the base creature i'd imagine
If you are using a polymorph spell to get the web ability, "The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form." (from polymorph spells description in magic section)
8/day
Yes. You are limited by the ability in the same way as a character that has that ability permanently. For example, if you have an ability that allows you to gain the Stunning Fist feat for a limited period of time and you use it 3 times. Those uses count against your total number of uses should you temporarily gain Stunning Fist again later that day. This limit also applies to abilities that grant additional uses of another ability (such as Extra Channel). Once used, they are consumed for the day, even if you gain the ability again.
Thats not the same thing Avoron. Web and poison aren't usually limited.
If you beast shape 10x per day, and you beast shape into a fire breathing lizard that can breathe fire twice a day , you can breathe fire twice a day, not 10. The number of times you can shape change isn't a factor.
Thats not the same thing Avoron. Web and poison aren't usually limited.Creatures with the web ability can use webs to support themselves and up to one additional creature of the same size. In addition, such creatures can throw a web up to eight times per day.
Ahh whoops. My bad. Carry on :)
The general rule, based on rulings on similar questions, is that if you have a limited-per day ability, but you switch "having that ability" on and off, you still only get a single pool of daily uses.
So 8/day it is.
Thanks.
Another question, this time about the abilities' DC:
DC equal to 10 + 1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s Con modifier.
Is that the druid's HD or do I use the creature's HD into which I shape?
And the CON bonus, I mean to remember that you use casting stat for DCs when using beastshape/wildshape.In other words: Con or Wis?
So 8/day it is.
Thanks.Another question, this time about the abilities' DC:
DC equal to 10 + 1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s Con modifier.Is that the druid's HD or do I use the creature's HD into which I shape?
And the CON bonus, I mean to remember that you use casting stat for DCs when using beastshape/wildshape.
In other words: Con or Wis?
None of the above.
"The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form."
So 8/day it is.
Thanks.Another question, this time about the abilities' DC:
DC equal to 10 + 1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s Con modifier.Is that the druid's HD or do I use the creature's HD into which I shape?
And the CON bonus, I mean to remember that you use casting stat for DCs when using beastshape/wildshape.
In other words: Con or Wis?None of the above.
"The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form."
The druid uses a supernatural ability , not a spell, to assume the shape. I can't find a rule to hit the DC of a supernatural ability. Someone said it was charisma, but not being able to find that I'd lean towards con. Some do wisdom because its the druids casting stat.
The druid uses a supernatural ability , not a spell, to assume the shape. I can't find a rule to hit the DC of a supernatural ability. Someone said it was charisma, but not being able to find that I'd lean towards con. Some do wisdom because its the druids casting stat.So 8/day it is.
Thanks.Another question, this time about the abilities' DC:
DC equal to 10 + 1/2 the creature’s HD + the creature’s Con modifier.Is that the druid's HD or do I use the creature's HD into which I shape?
And the CON bonus, I mean to remember that you use casting stat for DCs when using beastshape/wildshape.
In other words: Con or Wis?None of the above.
"The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form."
Charisma is for spell-likes. There are no rules for the DCs of supernatural effects in general.
For SU's the formula is 10+ 1/2 HD + relevant modifier.
They tend to be Constitution or Charisma based. The specific ability normally tells you which to use.
Wild shape acts as various polymorph spells with written exceptions (like duration). DC and such are as the spells.
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Wild shape acts as various polymorph spells with written exceptions (like duration). DC and such are as the spells.
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I will always rule that the DC of a Wild Shape is as per the Poly rules and use the DC of the spell that the Wild Shape is emulating. I'll also consider that my RAW, but I'm fine with a different table using their RAW as using the Supernatural Ability DC rules. I just don't agree with them that is the way to interpret the rules.
Thanks again.