Sniping

[My Self]

So say you have both Expert Sniper and Kobold Sniper- you take a -0 to stealth checks when sniping, no?

Are there any other abilities that would allow a kobold to move at full speed and disappear in plain sight without taking any penalties to stealth?

[Kalindlara]

Assuming you don't already have a social trait or a race trait, you could take the Fiendish Sniper tiefling race trait (from Dirty Tactics Toolbox).

+5 on Stealth checks made following a sniping attack. It's even a bonus, not a reduced penalty! ^_^

[My Self]

Kalindlara wrote:

Assuming you don't already have a social trait or a race trait, you could take the Fiendish Sniper tiefling race trait (from Dirty Tactics Toolbox).

+5 on Stealth checks made following a sniping attack. It's even a bonus, not a reduced penalty! ^_^

Once you start sniping, you become all but invisible.

[Woodoodoo]

I'm wondering what the perfect sniping build would be.

[Dom Dorringer]

Tiefling, and then any class with good single target damage

[Woodoodoo]

Wouldn't it have to be a class with sneak attack?

[RumpinRufus]

So if I understand correctly, a stealthing creature still has to hit normal AC (not flat-footed AC) unless the target is flat-footed? It's only if they're invisible that they can hit flat-footed AC?

Because otherwise the fighter FCB for kobolds would be quite nice (1/2 level to damage.) Fighter would also be able to actually do damage even while having two feat slots eaten up by sniping feats.

[My Self]

Oh, turns out also the stealth skill unlock gives you a reduced penalty to stealth when sniping. So any combination of Expert Sniper (DTT), Signature Skill (Stealth) (PFU), Stealthy Sniper (APG), Kobold Sniper (ARG) should give you a -0 snipe penalty, except for Stealthy Sniper+Kobold Sniper, which doesn't work.

In that case, a 5th level Goblin Unchained Rogue (Sniper) sniper could become one of the more dangerous enemies of its level.

[Declindgrunt]

im not seeing expert sniper or the Fiendish Sniper tiefling race trait anywhere on the d20 site where are they? are they 3rd party?

[Kalindlara]

They're both from Pathfinder Player Companion: Dirty Tactics Toolbox. The site operator might be behind on updates.

[My Self]

Archive of Nethys has the DTT stuff up right now.