So will Fantasy Grounds(or any other online play tool) Pathfinder support ever be a thing?


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So since I can't get IRL group to play with, I've turned to online play with roll20 and stuff. I haven't tried out Fantasy Grounds since roll20 is free, but I've been interesting to try it out due to it having D&D 5E campaign stuff available for purchase. However, it seems it doesn't have any Paizo's Pathfinder material available for use?

So yeah, basically expressing my interest as customer here and asking if its planned or if Paizo has explicit stance to not provide support for these things. It would make prepping much faster if they did provide support <_<

Silver Crusade

So, i play roll20.net aswel, and i do not know if you have made some research about it but, there are modules in roll20 that you can attach to your game which allows some of the pathfinder options.

I do not use them (personal choice), but i know they are there. For example, the character sheet, i know for a fact that is there (at least 2 months ago it was).

Now, if you are looking more specific customization of the game into roll20 at least, i would say that not, it wont and it should not happen.
However, there are some levels of customization that you can achieve such as specific dice roll related to a skill, hidden rolls, and many others related to a general way to play rol playing games, not only for pathfinder.

I am highly satisfied with roll20 (thinking on paying for it because I want the automatic FOW), and so far I have had ZERO problems trying to use all of the options of pathfinder into the game, plus i love the use of a web search engine to find images to use as background maps. That helps to make the preparation a lot faster.

Regards!.-

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Yeah, I do know about that, but its still painfully slow work if I'm running an AP instead of Pathfinder compatible third party module(or just home campaign without using ready made adventure material) in Roll20 <_< Like, I have to fill sheets for all creatures in AP, I have to create maps from AP... And if I want to create fancier maps, I guess I'd have to pay to use community's graphic tile packs?..

Silver Crusade

mmmm, interesting.
I keep a table of the creatures in my games, i dont actually fill ALL the information of the creature in the roll20 system, why would i do that, i dont understand, maybe you could have only the most important information in the description, but for AP or modules, most of the creatures in the pdf material have the description already digitalized, so why would you need it in the roll20?. Plus, you can find the bestiary free in the paizo/prd. Why would you need it in the roll20?.
I have exported the maps from the modules i own, succesfully, i mean, is not 10.000x7530HXextrasuperpower resolution, but it gets the job done quiet good. Even, my first experience with the free module from Falcons Hollow, i just pasted the map in the roll 20 and enlarge it a little bit, is not a video game, it is a rol playing game.
I am sure that with some software or someone more experienced in the internet, you could find a way to extract the image in high resolution.

In my experience, for home material it works perfectly fine, but normally i mix home-made with oficial material from modules and it still looks great.
Regards!.-


Pretty much all the PRD material is already available in Fantasy Grounds, at no extra cost. It's fairly quick and easy to grab a map out of a PDF (if you have one) and pop it into Fanatasy Grounds. Alternatively, if you're running an AP that someone else has already put into Fantasy Grounds, and you can prove you own the AP, then they may be willing to share their work with you.

Silver Crusade

Callum wrote:
Pretty much all the PRD material is already available in Fantasy Grounds, at no extra cost. It's fairly quick and easy to grab a map out of a PDF (if you have one) and pop it into Fanatasy Grounds. Alternatively, if you're running an AP that someone else has already put into Fantasy Grounds, and you can prove you own the AP, then they may be willing to share their work with you.

Interesting, I had some experience with fantasy grounds when it was still new.

Have you probed roll20?, would you say it is better?.
What are the most impressive features fantasy grounds now has?, under your opinion, of course.

It didnt convince me years ago, maybe y could try it now.

Regards!.-


I haven't really used Roll20 myself, but there are quite a few discussions about the relative merits of the two systems over on the Fantasy Grounds message boards, including this one.

Dark Archive

Callum wrote:
Pretty much all the PRD material is already available in Fantasy Grounds, at no extra cost. It's fairly quick and easy to grab a map out of a PDF (if you have one) and pop it into Fanatasy Grounds. Alternatively, if you're running an AP that someone else has already put into Fantasy Grounds, and you can prove you own the AP, then they may be willing to share their work with you.

1) I have RotR as physical due to hardcover book :P Buying that as pdf is also pretty expensive 2) Resolution from enlarging maps from PDFs is awful. Plus I'd have to edit map room markings out somehow.

Of course thats my experience from Roll20, but I doubt Fantasy Grounds somehow preserves resolution better <_< Still, good to know it has PRD material available so thats nice. Roll20 doesn't have that going for it so that alone would save a lot of time.

MuertoXSky wrote:

mmmm, interesting.

I keep a table of the creatures in my games, i dont actually fill ALL the information of the creature in the roll20 system, why would i do that, i dont understand

Because 1) rolling from macros in sheets 2) Faster to keep track of them than flipping tables in bestiarys or switching tabs in browser.

Also, just because I could(read: I have to do that because I have no choice) play with use maps with low resolution and edit out clumsily spoilery markings meant for GMs with picture editing software, I can still express my interest for paying for service where that wouldn't be a problem, no? <_<

Silver Crusade

Oh, of course. My "why would you" questions were honest, perhaps you had a different approach to the gameplay and I wanted to know.

But clarify me this, what you are looking for is to know if either fantasy grounds or roll20 have the support for pathfinder, meaning, for example, that you could look in both, find a Goblin and that the goblin comes with the full description ?. Is it right?, Because, if there is such system, I want it too!.

Plus, High resolution maps, which im guessing will be a problem for both systems, if needed to be exported from pdf.

Finally, a personal opinion, i found out that, in roll20, trying to automatize all your options is not the way to go. It could work for some cases, but it is basically trying to make a giant code that is solved by just switching 2 times between tabs.

Regards!.-


CorvusMask wrote:
1) I have RotR as physical due to hardcover book :P Buying that as pdf is also pretty expensive 2) Resolution from enlarging maps from PDFs is awful. Plus I'd have to edit map room markings out somehow.

1) As I said in my previous message, if you can provide proof of your physical purchase, you may well be able get someone to send you their Fantasy Grounds files for the AP - particularly with something like Rise of the Runelords, which is very popular. There are also loads of community-created resources, including high-resolution maps, available here on the Paizo message boards.

2) Paizo PDFs generally include fairly high-resolution versions of the maps, with the markings omitted. I've used these myself in Fantasy Grounds, without any problem. They're a lot better than what I'd produce playing face-to-face! If you want even higher-resolution maps, have a look at the community creations linked to above.

CorvusMask wrote:
I haven't tried out Fantasy Grounds since roll20 is free

Note that you can try Fantasy Grounds out for free (with some restrictions), and there is also a monthly subscription option, if you want to try out the full package without a larger initial cost. You can see all the licence options here.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path, Lost Omens, Rulebook, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

I've found Fantasy Grounds to be a very nice program to run games with, having recently purchased the full package. I've downloaded a number of the community packs and extensions, and have even purchased a few modules and rule systems beyond the core.

There is a module available for purchase called Road to Revolution, by (I think) Kobold Press which has all the maps, encounters, text, handouts, etc. loaded in. Unfortunately, Paizo has not set anything like this up with any of the VTT systems out there; the closest they've come is licensing Lone Wolf to do their APs on Hero Lab and Realms Works. I haven't seen anything on Realms Works' information that leads me to believe it could be effectively used as a VTT to run live games.

Paizo was working on its own VTT, but from my limited understanding, that's been in limbo for quite some time and wasn't made public beyond a few invited board members.

I second your "motion" to license to some of the established VTTs. Fantasy Grounds would be great!

Dark Archive

Callum wrote:
Pretty much all the PRD material is already available in Fantasy Grounds, at no extra cost. It's fairly quick and easy to grab a map out of a PDF (if you have one) and pop it into Fanatasy Grounds. Alternatively, if you're running an AP that someone else has already put into Fantasy Grounds, and you can prove you own the AP, then they may be willing to share their work with you.

...By "Pretty much all the PRD material" did you mean "Core rulebook material"?... At least it doesn't look like by default it has all the material.

Did you mean community made stuff or something?..


CorvusMask wrote:

By "Pretty much all the PRD material" did you mean "Core rulebook material"?... At least it doesn't look like by default it has all the material.

Did you mean community made stuff or something?

Yes - all the Core rules are included in Fantasy Grounds by default, and there are several excellent community-made modules that add the rest of the PRD material. There's obviously a lag between material being added to the PRD and becoming available in the community modules. It's pretty easy to add stuff yourself, too, if you need to.

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