Weapon training 2


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Hi,

I have a question about the alternative fighter weapon training option at level 9 that was introduced in Pathfinder Player Companion: Weapon Master's Handbook.

In the Core Rulebook, it says:

CRB wrote:

Weapon Training (Ex)

Starting at 5th level, a fighter can select one group of weapons, as noted below. Whenever he attacks with a weapon from this group, he gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls.

Every four levels thereafter (9th*, 13th, and 17th), a fighter becomes further trained in another group of weapons. He gains a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls when using a weapon from this group. In addition, the bonuses granted by previous weapon groups increase by +1 each. For example, when a fighter reaches 9th level, he receives a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with one weapon group and a +2 bonus on attack and damage rolls with the weapon group selected at 5th level. Bonuses granted from overlapping groups do not stack. Take the highest bonus granted for a weapon if it resides in two or more groups.

Now, if I read this correctly, at 9th level the normal benefits of Weapon Mastery are:

  • Gain a new weapon group with a +1 bonus
  • Increase the bonus for your first group by +1 to +2

The Weapon Master's Handbook adds to this:

PPC:WMH wrote:
Beginning at 9th level, instead of selecting an additional fighter weapon group, a fighter can choose an advanced weapon training option for one fighter weapon group that he previously selected with the weapon training class feature.

Now, I want to take an Advanced Weapon Training option instead of adding a new group. What I'd like to know is what ability is replaced when I do so. Is that only the selection of the new weapon group (first bullet), or should the WMH be interpreted that both boons would be scratched?

Example: at level 5, I choose Weapon Training 1 (Blades, Light). At level 9, I choose Advanced Weapon Training (Armed Bravery). Would I lose only the new weapon group with its associated +1, or would I also lose the increase from +1 to +2 for Blades, Light?

I presume the increase to +2 will remain.

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You are correct, you only lose the new weapon group, and the increase to Light Blades from +1 to +2 remains.

==Aelryinth


You still get the increase. it's at +2


Thanks!


Old still increases.

You pay with not getting a 2nd group.


It's in the sentence right after the one that you quoted. :)

Weapon Master's Handbook wrote:
The fighter’s weapon training bonus still increases for weapons from all fighter weapon groups he previously selected with weapon training.

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