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Does Spell combat, specifically "Ranged Spell Combat" from the Eldritch Archer archetype count as a "Full-Attack action"
I ask as it works for stuff like haste. But I wasn't certain for stuff like Rapid Shot and Manyshot both say.
"When making a full-attack action with a ranged weapon,"
So i was curious if these where valid options or if Spell Combat would disallow the use of these feats while being utilized.
So as I haven't seen a reply I'm going to assume this isn't valid as Spell combat wasn't changed to work with haste but instead they simply ruled haste worked with "full attack-like actions" which suggests haste is an exception rule and as a result Manyshot/Rapid Shot are not valid feats for spell combat as it's not a "full attack action" or even any sort of "attack action"
I'm pretty sure Manyshot/Rapid Shot works with ranged spell combat.
Is there any source for that? I ask as no one really specifically has defined Spell Combat as a "Full Attack Action" they made a ruling for haste but they still never fully declared it the "full attack action" they just said haste will work with it.
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fz#v5748eaic9qhe
Magus, Spell Combat: Does spell combat count as making a full attack action for the purpose of haste and other effects?
Yes.Edit 9/9/13: This is a revised ruling about how haste interacts with effects that are essentially a full attack, even though the creature isn't specifically using the full attack action (as required by haste). The earlier ruling did not allow the extra attack from haste when using spell combat.
The "and other effects" is what you're looking for. While they call out haste specifically, other effects that would affect or require a full-attack action would use spell combat as well. As such, manyshot and rapid shot, two feats that affect full-action attacks, should equally effect the attacking portion of a spell combat if it's allow to be performed with a ranged weapon (as is the case with eldritch archer).
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fz#v5748eaic9qhe
The "and other effects" is what you're looking for. While they call out haste specifically, other effects that would affect or require a full-attack action would use spell combat as well. As such, manyshot and rapid shot, two feats that affect full-action attacks, should equally effect the attacking portion of a spell combat if it's allow to be performed with a ranged weapon (as is the case with eldritch archer).Magus, Spell Combat: Does spell combat count as making a full attack action for the purpose of haste and other effects?
Yes.Edit 9/9/13: This is a revised ruling about how haste interacts with effects that are essentially a full attack, even though the creature isn't specifically using the full attack action (as required by haste). The earlier ruling did not allow the extra attack from haste when using spell combat.
Ok cool. I guess i hadn't considered the "and other effects" part of the question as the answer only called out haste but I guess this works well enough as a "good enough" situation.
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Given the question and the answer alone, it's an endorsement of Spell-Combat-as-a-special-Full Attack, which is a ruling I wholeheartedly agree with.
Adding the explanation muddies things. It implies that this ruling is about Haste, not Spell Combat, implying that "other effects" means "other Haste-like effects, like Speed weapons or Blessing of Fervor".