Does failing the concentration check expend the scroll?
As failure when casting a spell normally loses the spell, it seems this might be the case. However, because a scroll is a spell completion item I'm not sure the spell has activated during the check or not.
Does failing the concentration check expend the scroll?
As failure when casting a spell normally loses the spell, it seems this might be the case. However, because a scroll is a spell completion item I'm not sure the spell has activated during the check or not.
For me, yes. You lose the scroll as you would lose the spell.
Activating the scroll (ergo casting the spell) is what provokes the AoO, therefore casting defensive is what avoids the AoO. If you fail this, you fail the spell as well IMO.
Activating a scroll is a standard action (or the spell's casting time, whichever is longer) and it provokes attacks of opportunity exactly as casting a spell does. If the caster level check fails but no mishap occurs, the scroll is not expended.
You can't cast defensively with a scroll because "you" are not casting the spell. You are just completing it. So you the GM should not be making you worry about concentration checks at all. On the other side the attacker may just sunder the scroll, and then you are not casting anything at all.
I would advise you not cast when threatened.
You can't cast defensively with a scroll because "you" are not casting the spell. You are just completing it. So you the GM should not be making you worry about concentration checks at all. On the other side the attacker may just sunder the scroll, and then you are not casting anything at all.
I would advise you not cast when threatened.
Found it:
Spell Completion Items
Activating a spell completion item is the equivalent of casting a spell. It requires concentration and provokes attacks of opportunity. You lose the spell if your concentration is broken, and you can attempt to activate the item while on the defensive, as with casting a spell.
From http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Activate-Magic-Item
You can't cast defensively with a scroll because "you" are not casting the spell. You are just completing it. So you the GM should not be making you worry about concentration checks at all. On the other side the attacker may just sunder the scroll, and then you are not casting anything at all.
I would advise you not cast when threatened.
Found it:
Spell Completion Items
Activating a spell completion item is the equivalent of casting a spell. It requires concentration and provokes attacks of opportunity. You lose the spell if your concentration is broken, and you can attempt to activate the item while on the defensive, as with casting a spell.
From http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Activate-Magic-Item
Thanks. I just wish it was in the magic or magical items section, and not the combat chapter.
You can't cast defensively with a scroll because "you" are not casting the spell. You are just completing it. So you the GM should not be making you worry about concentration checks at all. On the other side the attacker may just sunder the scroll, and then you are not casting anything at all.
I would advise you not cast when threatened.
Found it:
Spell Completion Items
Activating a spell completion item is the equivalent of casting a spell. It requires concentration and provokes attacks of opportunity. You lose the spell if your concentration is broken, and you can attempt to activate the item while on the defensive, as with casting a spell.
From http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Activate-Magic-Item
Thanks. I just wish it was in the magic or magical items section, and not the combat chapter.
For future reference: PF SRD I check everything there because of the Search Function, much easier to do.