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I seem to recall there was a clarification on this last year some time and was hunting around, but have not found anything. There is nothing in the FAQ where I would expect something this important to be. Levelling up a Bard and want to make sure everything is correct - It's been quite a while since I played this character.
What exactly are you confused about?
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Have you checked the errata .pdf for the Advanced Race Guide?
I'm guessing that's what you need. ^_^
That's the one. Thanks! Changed the Favored Class from 1/2 level to 1/6 level. Only thing I could find was this post from John.
If an FCB is 1/6th, it had better be for way stronger than what is currently given. Like 1/6th of an actual level.
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Piggybacking on this topic: I have an Aasimar Bard I got tired of due to unfortunate archetype and build choice making use of the FCB. When the ACG got errata'd people could rebuild lots of things, but I didn't see anything of the sort for the ARG. Is my Aasimar simply grandfathered in, or am I allowed to rebuild?
Also, in this post John Compton used Rebuild and Retrain pretty much interchangeably. I posted there as well, but I didn't get an answer: Rebuild implies everything's for free, Retrain doesn't. I had a Rogue that abused Sap Adept, and I was allowed to retrain him. But I'm allowed to retrain anyway, so that doesn't change much. If I had the option to rebuild those offending options I'd be a lot happier.
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It's a nice thought but I doubt we're going to see another errata, especially not anytime soon.
It's a shame they nerfed it so hard - the only people that were happy about the change are angry forum posters who were mad that other peoples' characters were using the powerful FCB options. Frankly, I'm not sure the people raging about other peoples' characters are the ones Paizo should make edits for.
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Is there anyway to start up a petition to errata the errata? I honestly believe that the ARG changes went overboard. They fixed something that was not really broken.
Where on the fora should I go to petition the PDT?
Hmm
The difficulty is that errata is only (usually) issued when the book receives a new print run. Since the ARG was just updated, it will be many years (or never) before it gets reprinted again.
Strategically, if you want to address anything for possible errata, it's best to focus on books that haven't received an update in some time.
This issue is being "fixed" in homegames, where it seems like the 1/4 is being considered fair. PFS gets the short end of it all, though.
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Yeah. I had a friend who had to retire a level 10 character because of the FCB. Everyone goes "Just suck it up and play the character" but it broke the build entirely, made him no longer meet prerequisites, and more.
Other factors played a part too, but he said the ACG errata is a part of the reason he's essentially quit PFS entirely. The heinous slashing grace nerf was another big one that ruined several builds.
At least we still have Fencing Grace. Yay for cookie-cutter dex users...?
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Sure, sure. Power Attack + class abilities was enough for me on my first dexer. Agile just made it so that I didn't need strength at all any more.
My second dexer's starting to feel the gap though. Strength chars, particularly two-handed ones, hit for 5-6 pts more. Just 4 more scenarios before agile!
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That's a tragic waste of a Complete Rebuild option. That just makes my blood boil... a character option is changed, and only people able to afford traveling to Gencon (and who manage to get the requisite number of GM slots, and don't have a separate need for the insanely valuable and useful Complete Rebuild) are allowed to salvage the characters whose builds were crippled by the nerf.
This is certainly an odd case. Other such changes were accompanied by generous grandfathering, or suitable rebuild rules. Paizo's usually very good about that sort of thing. This one instance really hurt a lot of characters and there was almost no opportunity for recovery.
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That's a tragic waste of a Complete Rebuild option. That just makes my blood boil... a character option is changed, and only people able to afford traveling to Gencon (and who manage to get the requisite number of GM slots, and don't have a separate need for the insanely valuable and useful Complete Rebuild) are allowed to salvage the characters whose builds were crippled by the nerf.
This is certainly an odd case. Other such changes were accompanied by generous grandfathering, or suitable rebuild rules. Paizo's usually very good about that sort of thing. This one instance really hurt a lot of characters and there was almost no opportunity for recovery.
I have nothing more to offer than my complete and total agreement. I've been falling out of love with Paizo and PFS as more and more of these types of rulings are issued.