Chant / Cackle Hex Question

[Driver_325yards]

So Chant and Cackle are a move action and the Hexes that they extend by one round are standard actions.

Accordingly, you could, let's say, use your Fortune Hex and then Cackle as a move action right afterwards and the Fortune would last for two rounds.

Then next round you could Cackle or Chant twice to extend the Fortune for another two rounds.

Is this correct? I have never heard anyone suggest using Cackle or Chant this way, but am I right per the wording of the two Hexes.

[KingOfAnything]

Unfortunately, you can't Cackle or Chant twice in one round. You are limited to using it once per round.

[Driver_325yards]

Quote:

Chant (Su): A shaman can chant as a move action. Any creature that is within 30 feet that is under the effects of the shaman's charm, evil eye, fortune, fury, or misfortune hex has that effect's duration extended by 1 round. A shaman cannot select both this hex and the witch's cackle hex.

No mention of using it once per round, unless I am missing something.

[KingOfAnything]

You missed the FAQ

Advanced Players Guide, FAQ wrote:

FAQ link: Witch, Cackle Hex: Can I use my standard action and move action to cackle twice in one round, extending another hex by two rounds?

No, you can only use cackle once per round.

[Abraham Z.]

Also, note that your hex effects expire at the *start* of your turn. So if, in round 1, you use a hex with a duration of 1 round and DON'T cackle (maybe you need your move action for something else), it expires at the start of round 2, BEFORE you have a chance to cackle to extend it. On the other hand, if, in round 1, you use a hex with 1 round duration and then also cackle, the hex now has a duration of 2 rounds (i.e. to just before your turn in round 3). In round 2 you could, for example, use your standard action to do another hex and your move to cackle, which would extend the duration of both hexes.

[Chess Pwn]

but you can cackle every round to keep it up "permanently".

[Driver_325yards]

You have straightened me out. Thanks for the responses and added advice about how cackle/chant work.

[Derklord]

Actually, the FAQ mentions only Cackle. ACG is was printed after that FAQ and neither FAQ nor errata have restricted Chant. SO RAW, you can Chant twice per round.

Is there a way for a witch to get Chant?