Sacred Fist Flurry of Blows

[Sorrol]

Hello,

I do not fully understand the Flurry of Blows description of the Warpriest Archetype Sacred Fist.

At 1st level, a sacred fist can make a flurry of blows attack as a full-attack action. This ability works like the monk ability of the same name, except the sacred fist's attack bonus from warpriest levels does not count as his warpriest level.

Does this mean I use my normal BAB + modifiers instead?

Cheers,
Sorrol

[Imbicatus]

Correct. You gain the extra attacks as a monk, but they are made at your normal BAB.

[Chess Pwn]

-2 for flurrying

[Torbyne]

It kind of feels like this should have its own progression chart, you use 3/4 BAB hit progression but uses the -2 flurry penalty and gain iterative hits at the same levels as a monk when making a flurry?

[Imbicatus]

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1 -2/-2
2 -1/-1
3 +0/+0
4 +1/+1
5 +1/+1
6 +2/+2
7 +3/+3
8 +4/+4/-1/-1
9 +4/+4/-1/-1
10 +5/+5/+0/+0
11 +6/+6/+1/+1
12 +7/+7/+2/+2
13 +7/+7/+2/+2
14 +8/+8/+3/+3
15 +9/+9/+4/+4/-1/-1
16 +10/+10/+5/+5/+0/+0
17 +10/+10/+5/+5/+0/+0
18 +11/+11/+6/+6/+1/+1
19 +12/+12/+7/+7/+2/+2
20 +13/+13/+8/+8/+3/+3

This is the Sacred Fist flurry progression. It's a bit jumpier than a core monks because of the way that 3/4 iteratives stack with flurry progression.

In order to hit anything, you need to rely on self buffs, and you can match the number of attacks per round with a base warpriest by simply going with TWF feats.

[Melkiador]

Now that we are talking about it, it does seem a little ambiguous. Does the Sacred Fist get his iteratives at a slower rate?

[Torbyne]

Never has the term "Flurry of Misses" looked so accurate...

[Chess Pwn]

Sacred fists gets his iteratives at the same rate as other 3/4ths classes. It just happens to be the levels that flurry also gives you another attack. So each iterative you get two of them.

[Torbyne]

Those iteratives are spread out so far apart too... That errata had to be so painful for PFS players :/

[Chess Pwn]

It's the same as any 3/4th class using 2wf.
Now the base warpriest can to 2wf faster than normal 3/4 classes.

[Cranky McDuff]

I really wish they had kept the "full BAB with Sacred Weapon" from the playtest. I actually reinstated that for the Sacred Fist NPC I have with my players in Wrath of the Righteous(non-Mythic). He has yet to out-perform any of the PC's and they're fairly optimized and organized. Though he HAS saved them a few times. But, that's only because they don't cuddle with their dice enough. :P

[My Self]

This is the same as the 3.5 Flurry of Blows, except that you won't be able to stack it with TWF to get an extreme flurry of a billion misses.