Infernal Obedience?

[Alexandre Gayk-Lemay]

Iner Sea Gods gave us Deific Obedience, and Chronicles of the Righteous and Book the the Damned II Lords of Chaos gave us the heavenly and demonic versions of that feat. But what of the group most likely to submit, no matter how they must prove themselves to their patron? What of Diabolists and Infernal Obedience?

With the upcoming Adventure Paths set in Cheliax, Empire of Devils, I would like to invite people to make suggestions about homebrewed versions of Infernal Obediences for their favourite Dukes, Whore Queens and Malebranche from Book of the Damned I Princes of Darkness and other Golarion-friendly sources. Of course, because of the relevance of this concept in relation to the upcoming adventure paths, I would also love it if some companion or another might make Infernal Obediences (and relevant rituals, fluff and bonuses) official.

I look forward to seeing what you all can come up with;
On your marks!

[Kalindlara]

At this point, Demonic/Celestial Obedience are the past. As of now, all divine beings will use the Deific Obedience rules (including three sets of boons).

You may be happy to know that Mahathallah, Mephistopheles, Moloch, and Baalzebul are all getting such write-ups over the course of the two Chelaxian APs.

[lemeres]

And even if that wasn't the case....

You could write it off as 'it is all under Asmodeus'.

What? Do you think he is running some joke like with those demon jerks? Or that he runs some bickering group of fools like the forces of good?

No- all owe their true allegiance to him.

I know, other rules and such, and the bizarre desire to have everything with similar rules sets across the whole spectrum (...which brought up the antipaladin...)... but I think I could do without the infernal obedience myself. You must admit...it seems ripe for cherry picking the same way favored weapons/domains are. I would have been fine with a 'cool but impractical' set of demonic ones (the kind that were just too evil and labor intensive to actually use for a PC; BBEG fodder, basically), and maybe the deific ones for the main pantheon (for actual PC options)

[Entryhazard]

Aren't Deific Obediences only about Deities rather than demigods?

[Slithery D]

Yeah, James Jacobs claimed in his "ask me" thread they'd do all three for things like demon lords if they had it to do over, but I don't think that would actually be the case for demigod level creatures.

[Alexandre Gayk-Lemay]

I don't know Lemeres, even if it all comes down to Asmodeus, Infernal dukes have unique domains and hold sway over different elements so I'm inclined to disagree. I wouldn't call the CEO to complain about something project manager A of marketing could handle, and I'll bet he's the one who'll handle the relevant paperwork. Bottom line, the CEO's the one who's getting your money, but the guy who trained to handle your kind of problem is the one with whom you'll get more face time :)

Kalindlara, thanks for the info, I appreciate it!

[Doki-Chan]

ofc, the thing about expanding on Mahathallah, is where are the other Queens' Obediences...?

[Kalindlara]

Doki-Chan wrote:

ofc, the thing about expanding on Mahathallah, is where are the other Queens' Obediences...?

Sadly, they'll have to wait. It's a shame... I'd love to be* Obedient to Ardat Lili.

If next year's Inner Sea Faiths does well, maybe we'll be able to get more supplementary products of that nature.

*Or teach others to be obedient. Whatever. ^_^