Magus Spellstrike, elemental damage on weapons and Energy Resistance.


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Scarab Sages

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Scenario:
Level 5 Magus wielding a +1 shocking katana casts Shocking Grasp.
The Magus spellstrikes an enemy with Energy Resistance 10 Electricity.

Does the energy resistance subtract from both the shocking property of the weapon and shocking grasp separately? In other words subtract 10 from both or does it only subtract 10 from the total electric damage done from that attack.

1d8 + 1d6 Electricity - 10 + 5d6 Electtricity - 10
OR
1d8 + 6d6 Electricity - 10

The bolded section of spellstrike has me interpreting it as both the spell and the weapon damage come from a single melee attack. This combined with the bolded section from Energy Resistance, which specifies that energy resistance only ignores a certain amount of damage per attack leads me to believe that in the scenario above, the Energy Resistance 10 Electricity would only be applied to the total damage dealt by the attack.

I am posting here to determine if my interpretation is correct or not. Thank you in advanced for your help.

Spellstrike (Su): At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell. If successful, this melee attack deals its normal damage as well as the effects of the spell. If the magus makes this attack in concert with spell combat, this melee attack takes all the penalties accrued by spell combat melee attacks. This attack uses the weapon's critical range (20, 19–20, or 18–20 and modified by the keen weapon property or similar effects), but the spell effect only deals ×2 damage on a successful critical hit, while the weapon damage uses its own critical modifier.

Energy Resistance: A creature with resistance to energy has the ability (usually extraordinary) to ignore some damage of a certain type per attack, but it does not have total immunity.
Each resistance ability is defined by what energy type it resists and how many points of damage are resisted. It doesn't matter whether the damage has a mundane or magical source.

When resistance completely negates the damage from an energy attack, the attack does not disrupt a spell. This resistance does not stack with the resistance that a spell might provide.


I believe your interpretation is correct, but one can never be sure. I'm going to mark this for FAQ because I'm not 100% sure.


It is one attack, the damage is applied from the attack and then the damage resistance or energy resistance is applied.

IE: 1d8 +6d6 -10

Silver Crusade

No it is an attack with several parts of extra damage that are all separate. Resistance would apply to every portion. Shocking + CL 5 Shocking Grasp =/= 6CL Intensified Shocking Grasp.


Endoralis, attacks don't work like that. You do not treat all the elements of the damage as separate.

If I had a magic sword that did 1d6 fire and I also had a spell that, when cast upon the sword, did 1d6 fire...does that mean I apply the energy resistance twice? No, it is applied once to the attack...period.

All damage from the attack is applied and THEN damage reduction or energy resistance kicks in.

Scarab Sages

Endoralis wrote:
No it is an attack with several parts of extra damage that are all separate. Resistance would apply to every portion. Shocking + CL 5 Shocking Grasp =/= 6CL Intensified Shocking Grasp.

Is there a specific rule you are using to come to this conclusion?

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