My group decided to play a high level mini campaign. Unfortunately for us, our DM is very up on the rules. However I think he's made a mistake and yet I can't find it.
---Battle plays out as follows. Monster in this case some sort of goblin rogue, gets the initiative and throws a dagger striking me, said fighter, then dimension doors to the cleric and pummels him with 4 attacks, all w/sneak attack. We all get to go and the monk lands a strike which said rogue in turn, turns the attack onto me, thereby I take the beating. Next turn, said rogue pummels me and does sneak attack damage for 4 attacks. Proceeds to turn one of my blows into the monk and turn a reflex save spell on to me.
---My question, knowing he's 20th level, because the dm laughed at the amount of damage he was doing, is how the bloody hell is he constantly attacking everyone flat footed outside of the surprise portion of combat and turning attacks on us.
---Please understand, we are more into the roll playing aspect and enjoy throwing dice and reading rules as we go, but this insanity, no, this utter destruction of 3 of our 5 15th level party members is an aghast to pc's.
Your help is appreciated, for we've entered his lair and the hour of our doom approaches.
Thanks
---Battle plays out as follows. Monster in this case some sort of goblin rogue, gets the initiative and throws a dagger striking me, said fighter, then dimension doors to the cleric and pummels him with 4 attacks, all w/sneak attack. We all get to go and the monk lands a strike which said rogue in turn, turns the attack onto me, thereby I take the beating. Next turn, said rogue pummels me and does sneak attack damage for 4 attacks. Proceeds to turn one of my blows into the monk and turn a reflex save spell on to me.
Is that:
Goblin uses surprise round to do 5 attacks? That shouldn't be normally possible; he should only get one action in a surprise round. If he had some trick to do a full round of normal actions during the surprise round AND he beat your initiative in round 1, then everything you describe is possible. I wouldn't know how he could do this and I'm not sure it's even possible.
So I assume that was round 1? Maybe the dagger throwing was his surprise round and then the DDoor and attacks vs. cleric were his first round (not sure how he did that unless he had a Swift DDoor).
Then, also in round 1, the monk attacks and hits you.
There is no mention of what you did in round 1. Did you even have a turn that round or did you lose it somehow?
Then round 2 starts and the goblin full-attacks you with sneak attacks. I assume you had a turn in round 1, but if for some reason you did not, then you still have not acted and you're still flat-footed for all of his attacks. If you did have an action in round 1, then it was much harder for that rogue to get a full round of sneak attacks on you.
Am I reading that right?
Maybe this goblin was using Dimensional Savant to flank with himself? Maybe not, it sounds like those attacks came in different rounds or otherwise all happened in one square each round which wouldn't let this trick work.
Or else maybe he had an invisible flanking ally?
Or maybe the GM just made a custom magic item. Say, a Ring of Clumsy Foes: When worn, any foe you attack is denied its DEX bonus to AC against your attacks.
Damn, actually that sounds like a great idea. I'm gonna have to make one of those for my game. LOL, and since I'm a vicious tarrasque, my version will have class/race/other limitations that make it unusable for my PC who uses Sneak Attacks. Unusable for all the PCs, actually. Bwu-ha-ha-ha!
Can't rule out the possibility that your GM got a little carried away and just ignored or forgot rules.
There's also this clause in dimension door:
After using this spell, you can't take any other actions until your next turn.
There might be something somewhere that gets around it in the rules, though.
Using dimensional savant seems like what he's doing.
Then round 2 starts and the goblin full-attacks you with sneak attacks. I assume you had a turn in round 1, but if for some reason you did not, then you still have not acted and you're still flat-footed for all of his attacks. If you did have an action in round 1, then it was much harder for that rogue to get a full round of sneak attacks on you.
Am I reading that right?
I did have a full round to attack. That's why I was confused why the 2nd round of flat footed sneak attack damage
Can't rule out the possibility that your GM got a little carried away and just ignored or forgot rules.
I believed this is the case, but figured I'd ask
The talent Unwitting Ally could explain the flanking.
The feat Redirect Attack could explain the party hitting itself.
Both of these require opposed rolls. If the GM knows your limits, he might be rolling for you or know that he cannot miss due to overkill on the roll making you unable to resist.
/cevah
Benefit: A rogue with this talent can spend a swift action to attempt to make an opponent act like an ally for purposes of providing a flank until the beginning of the rogue’s next turn. The opponent must be able to hear and see the rogue, and the rogue must succeed at a Bluff check opposed by the opponent’s Sense Motive. If the check succeeds, the opponent acts as an ally for the purpose of providing a flank. Whether or not the check succeeds, the rogue cannot use this trick again on the same opponent for the next 24 hours. If the rogue fails the check by 5 or more, she cannot use the unwitting ally ability on any opponent within line of sight of the failed attempt for 24 hours.
Prerequisite(s): Dex 15, Int 15, Dodge.
Benefit: Once per turn, when an opponent only you threaten fails an attack against you, you can redirect the attack to target another foe. The new target must be adjacent to you and within reach of the opponent that missed you. Attempt a combat maneuver check; if the result exceeds both the Combat Maneuver Defense of the opponent who missed you and the Armor Class of the new target, the attack strikes and deals its normal damage.
If that annoying goblin was an unchained rogue, the initial dagger throw might have been the result of the Quick Shot advanced talent.
I noticed that if the Redirect Attack was used by the GM, it was used wrong. It can only be used once per turn and only if the attacker misses. In the first turn the Monk hit the GM's rogue and he redirected the attack. In the second round, he redirected a spell and another attack.
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If hes using dimensional door (or abundant step), Id say he's using the dimensional dervish feat chain. When combined with Dimensional savant, you can full attack by popping around the battlefield like Nightcrawler, and flank with yourself.