Can Unseen servant throw grenades?

[WagnerSika]

Recently, in Iron Gods campaign we were fighting some grenade lobbing foes. When thrown, the grenade explodes 1 round later.

Now if I had an unseen servant with me and the grenade lands next to it, could it pick up the grenade and throw it back?
The description of unseen servant spell states that "The servant cannot attack in any way; it is never allowed an attack roll."
When throwing a splash weapon or grenade you have to make attack roll to hit the square you want.

Can the servant therefore lob grenades at all or could it throw them to random square in the direction you want?

[Gisher]

Nope.

[Casual Viking]

WagnerSika wrote:

Recently, in Iron Gods campaign we were fighting some grenade lobbing foes. When thrown, the grenade explodes 1 round later.

Now if I had an unseen servant with me and the grenade lands next to it, could it pick up the grenade and throw it back?
The description of unseen servant spell states that "The servant cannot attack in any way; it is never allowed an attack roll."
When throwing a splash weapon or grenade you have to make attack roll to hit the square you want.

Can the servant therefore lob grenades at all or could it throw them to random square in the direction you want?

For the reasons you quote yourself, no.

[Here4daFreeSwag]

It'd be kinda funny to have the unseen servant pick-up a grenade and "walk" it over to the square you want; wouldn't work as well with a splash weapon though- unless you were planning to provide it to somebody to throw with it.

[Archaeik]

Grenade wrote:

A grenade is a small, cylindrical device that is designed to be thrown as a splash weapon or fired from a grenade launcher (see page 24).

Throw Splash Weapon wrote:

To attack with a splash weapon, make a ranged touch attack against the target.

You can instead target a specific grid intersection. Treat this as a ranged attack against AC 5.

Unless I've missed something, there aren't rules for targeting a specific square.

Now, I agree that it can't target anything as a splash weapon, but I'm less clear if its only option is carrying and dropping.... It seems a strange intersection(no pun intended) of the rules if the servant stops being able to toss an object simply because it is also a weapon (unless it simply can never toss anything, which isn't mentioned in the spell).
What about rolling (more like bowling) the object away?
Attack rolls only matter, and I dare say happen, if you care about targeting.

As a tangent, what happens if an Unseen Servant drops an object directly above a "target"? It can't make the attack roll, certainly, but does that negate all chance to hit?
Let's even take this to the extreme, and say the object is large, but not dense (regardless of if it should do damage), such that it would be excessively unlikely to miss without an act of God, what happens?

[Just a Guess]

It can not throw it in the direction of any creature because that would need an attack roll. But it should be able to ready an action to pick it up and move to some location.
So for the example above it should be able to move the grenade from one point within the spell range to another point within the range. It might combo well with create pit because now it could move the grenade to the slope where it would slip and drop into the pit.
Or, if the spell area includes a wall it could move the grenade to the other side of the wall.

But throwing it back would not work.

[WagnerSika]

Dropping items on creatures is an attack roll so servants could not do that.
Since the servants can not throw items if it requires an attack roll or drop items if it requires an attack roll, you could argue that this is a way to determine whether there are enemies in the area.
If the servant is unable to throw the grenade down the hall you know something is hiding there. If the servant is unable to drop rocks from the ledge you know there are creatures waiting below.

Of course, no GM would let this fly :)
I'd rule that servants can only drop items on their space and are not able to throw anything. Since the servant can't fly you don't have to worry about that.

[Archaeik]

The argument I'm making is one of targeting.

A creature below the Unseen Servant should not prevent it from releasing an object from its "hands".

The simulationist in me says that this shouldn't also automatically prevent said object from interacting with said creature. (It merely wasn't targeted.)

Similarly, the simulationist in me says that it's fairly unreasonable to make a distinction between weapons and objects as long as you avoid targeting a creature, object, or grid intersection...
A strength check to "roll" the grenade away seems pretty reasonable (and likely leaves picking up and carrying it as the superior option).

[Lilith Knight]

This is certainly a weird intersection of the rules.

If the unseen servant can throw objects it doesn't make sense for it to suddenly not be able to throw something just because it's a weapon, so I'd make it automatically fail the throw and thus land in a random square. That's if they can throw items, an unseen servant can only apply 5 pounds of force so I don't think I'd let it throw anything anyways.

As for dropping an object, I'd use the same logic for throwing and have it land in a random square as if it had failed an attack roll.