Can I Take Weapon Focus In Natural Attacks? How Does This Work?

[YawningAngel]

Per title, really. I'm unsure whether natural attacks count as a 'weapon' for this purpose, and if so whether I can take weapon focus in "natural attacks" (as I can presumably take weapon proficiency) or whether I would have to take it in a specific natural attack (e.g. "bite" or "claw").

[Jeraa]

You have to choose a specific natural weapon when you take the feat. It doesn't apply to all natural weapons you have, just that specific type of natural weapon. So if you take Weapon Focus (Claw) it would apply to all claw attacks you make, but not to bite attacks.

[Blackvial]

yes you can take weapons focus for natural attacks, but you have to choose which one you want buffed if you have more than one type

[The Archive]

Yes, you're able to take Weapon Focus with a natural attack. The Bestiaries have many examples of creatures with Weapon Focus(natural attack), such as this one. You get it with one specific kind of natural attack (bite, claw, tail, etc) when you take the feat. And should you take it a second time you could get it with another different kind of natural weapon.

[YawningAngel]

Cheers.

[Scythia]

I've heard that the answer is yes. :P

[Cavall]

Then what about this, if I may ask? Seems to indicate some fall under unarmed strike?

Claw Attack Tengus with this racial trait have learned to use their claws as natural weapons. They gain two claw attacks as primary natural attacks that deal 1d3 points of damage, and are treated as having the Improved Unarmed Strike feat for the purpose of qualifying for other feats. This racial trait replaces swordtrained.

[Naal]

Naw, that rule is pretty clear. Those Tengus just don't need Improved Unarmed Strike to get Stunning Fist, Deflect Arrows, Improved Grapple or other goodies. IUS would be wasteful for them, since they can already attack for lethal damage with their claws. There are some fringe benefits for picking IUS, since I think it allows you to threaten adjacent squares even when your hands are full or you are wielding a reach weapon. But when going for a claw Tengu, neither of those things is likely.

They still need Weapon Focus (Claw) if they want the +1 attack bonus.
They could also take Weapon Focus (Grapple).

[Imbicatus]

They would also need to take Feral Combat Training if they actually wanted to benefit from a style or feat that augments unarmed strikes when attacking with the claws.

[LazarX]

Cavall wrote:

Then what about this, if I may ask? Seems to indicate some fall under unarmed strike?

Claw Attack Tengus with this racial trait have learned to use their claws as natural weapons. They gain two claw attacks as primary natural attacks that deal 1d3 points of damage, and are treated as having the Improved Unarmed Strike feat for the purpose of qualifying for other feats. This racial trait replaces swordtrained.

So if your question is can they take weapon focus for the claw attack? The answer is yes.