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Okay I was going through the gnomes alternate racial traits and was wondering if the pyromaniac choice would work with a fire using kineticist.
Pyromaniac:
Gnomes with this racial trait are treated as one level higher when casting spells with the fire descriptor, using granted powers of the Fire domain, using the bloodline powers of the fire elemental bloodline or the revelations of the oracle's flame mystery, and determining the damage of alchemist bombs that deal fire damage (this ability does not give gnomes early access to level-based powers; it only affects the powers they could use without this ability). Gnomes with Charisma scores of 11 or higher also gain the following spell-like abilities: 1/day—dancing lights, flare, prestidigitation, produce flame. The caster level for these effects is equal to the gnome's level; the DCs are Charisma-based. This racial trait replaces gnome magic and illusion resistance.
It's been asked a lot. The intent should be that it works, but nothing officially says it does. Yet.
Edit: Or you could say that because a blast is a spell like ability that it is covered under the racial working on spells.
As of right now the gnome pyromaniac doesn't interact with kineticist because all the kineticist talents are mostly spell-like abilities (supposedly some are supernatural but I don't know which ones as the only stated supernatural stuff are the class features).
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It's been asked a lot. The intent should be that it works, but nothing officially says it does. Yet.
Edit: Or you could say that because a blast is a spell like ability that it is covered under the racial working on spells.
The way I see it is all the wild talent has an "effective spell level" so I don't see why not.
Well all spell-like abilities have an effective spell level, but spell-like abilities aren't spells which pyromaniac specifically states needing to do, along with other abilities a kineticist doesn't qualify for.
Well all spell-like abilities have an effective spell level, but spell-like abilities aren't spells which pyromaniac specifically states needing to do, along with other abilities a kineticist doesn't qualify for.
That FAQs application to this topic is questionable though.
Well all spell-like abilities have an effective spell level, but spell-like abilities aren't spells which pyromaniac specifically states needing to do, along with other abilities a kineticist doesn't qualify for.That FAQs application to this topic is questionable though.
Application of the FAQ? Sure no magic item activation involved. The statement "A spell-like ability is not a spell" doesn't grant a lot of wiggle-room though.
Yes but choosing fire as your element make them spells with the fire descriptor
The wild talents are spell-like abilities. Not spells. If a spell-like ability has a fire descriptor, it's still not a spell that has a fire descriptor. It's the same thing with how being able to cast spell-like abilities doesn't let one count as a spellcaster.
That FAQ is talking about prerequisites. For the purpose of prerequisites SLAs don't count as spells.
The text says, "Spell-like abilities are magical and work just like spells", which would imply that they would be affected by things that affect spells you cast.
Ignoring the FAQ, it is pretty clear the intention was for the racial to work on SLAs as it turns right around and gives you some for it to apply to. If the first part were meant to not work on the second part, then it should have said so.
Metamagic feats applied to spells don't affect SLA because they specifically only mention spells. And they don't have spell slots but both get mentioned in their FAQ. Pyromaniac specifically says spells and other fire abilities that predate kineticist but not SLA's in general.
Ignoring FAQs the pyromaniac gave out 4 SLA and only produce flame has the fire descriptor yet it still states that the caster level is equal to the gnome's level, not "gnome's level + 1" if the pyromaniac ability had applied.