Amulet of Hidden Strength and speed weapon


Rules Questions


I'm looking to get both for a DPS based archer (I'm trying to give him more hits per round to stack with manyshot and rapid shot). However,

Speed wrote:
When making a full-attack action, the wielder of a speed weapon may make one extra attack with it. The attack uses the wielder's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. (This benefit is not cumulative with similar effects, such as a haste spell.)
and
the Amulet of Hidden Strength wrote:
This glass teardrop hangs on a platinum chain and can be used once per day to grant a surge of power. This surge can be used in one of two ways. As a swift action, the wearer of the amulet can make one melee or ranged attack at his highest attack bonus.

So would these stack then?

They seem like the same thing but they read somewhat different.


they stack


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You could use both in the same round. Speed doesn't use up your swift action.

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Michael Grate wrote:
Speed wrote:
When making a full-attack action, the wielder of a speed weapon may make one extra attack with it. The attack uses the wielder's full base attack bonus, plus any modifiers appropriate to the situation. (This benefit is not cumulative with similar effects, such as a haste spell.)

I think the issue here is not the actions used but whether the extra full-BAB attack granted by the amulet is considered a "similar effect" to the extra full-BAB attack granted by Speed.

Fortunately, this FAQ for the ki pool also applies to the amulet:

FAQ wrote:

Monk: Does the extra attack from spending ki as part of a flurry of blows stack with the extra attack from haste?

Yes. The extra attack described in the ki pool ability doesn't say it works like haste, nor does it say that it doesn't stack with haste, so the monk would get two additional attacks (one from spending a ki point as part of a flurry, one from haste).

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