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- Alchemists with the Clone Master archetype get the Clone spell as a 6th-level extract.
- Clone cannot be made into an Extract, as it has a Focus requirement.
- Clone cannot be made into a magical item, as none exists for it. No Wand or Potion, obviously. But also no Staff or other kind of item that I'm aware of.
Are you saying an Alchemist cannot create an extract of True Strike, either?
I am, or rather: the rules are. (Non-Divine) Focus = no Extract. Alchemists can use a Wand of True Strike though.
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True Strike is on the inquisitor spell list, so you can ignore its focus requirement.
Even though, in the Alchemist writeup in the APG, True Strike is listed as one of the Formulae that they can prepare as an extract?Is it? The class description in the PRD, under "Alchemy", states:
Creating extracts consumes raw materials, but the cost of these materials is insignificant—comparable to the valueless material components of most spells. If a spell normally has a costly material component, that component is expended during the consumption of that particular extract. Extracts cannot be made from spells that have focus requirements (alchemist extracts that duplicate divine spells never have a divine focus requirement).
So if you have a counter-quote, we'll have the grounds for a FAQ.
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Why, indeed I do. It's even from the same section:
"Alchemists gain access to a variety of formulae, allowing them to make extracts of the following spells."
Amongst those "following spells" are True Strike and Analyze Dweomer.
Wouldn't it make more sense if an Alchemist could simply prepare the extracts of spells they're explicitly granted, such as the ones I've listed, as well as Clone for the Clone Master, rather than to have completely dead abilities?
I mean, seriously, is this actually a question?
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The focus for the clone spell is an alchemist lab. It is ironic in that it seems really the clone spell is actually wizards figuring out how to make an extract.
The focus for the clone spell is an alchemist lab.And that's precisely my problem. Clone Master alchemists can already clone themselves just fine. The beauty of a Clone extract would be to hand it out as an Infusion: clones for everyone! But if a Clone infusion is allowed, at which point would the focus be required?
- When the infusion is mixed? That takes the longest amount of time (a minute), but all they're really making is a vial of some concoction - no different at that point from other extracts.
- Or when the infusion is used? That's the moment the actual Clone is produced, and also when valuable material components would have to be added for extracts that require them. But it's just a standard action - what's that whole laboratory adding to the proceedings?
Specific (Alchemists gain Clone as an extract formula) overrides general (spells with focus components cannot be made into extracts).
If you decide that the focus component is still required to create the extract itself, it would be required when the extract is prepared, because extracts explicitly only take one standard action to mix/quaff when used.
@Tvarog
If any formulae that can be in the book can be made into an extract, then why have the limitation of focus components line? Can you make extracts from formulae not on your spell list?
Generally speaking, you could make extracts from spells not on the alchemist spell list (via the existing research "mechanic"). However, that being the general part of the rules quoted means that none of the custom extracts can be made from spells with focus components. All of the spells with focus components that the PDT wanted to be available to alchemists are explicitly on their spell list, possibly to avoid just such a question.
GMs can override that restriction (and allow non-alchemist spells with focus components to be researched as extracts by alchemists) with house rules if they want, but that's what RAW states.