Like say I have 6 BAB, can I use the attack that has a plus 1 bonus first?
Also what about two weapon fighting? Is there anything saying I have to use my "main" hand first?
Mainly interested in the two weapon fighting bit but thought since the two bits seemed like pretty much the same question I thought I'd ask both. :P
Well in just trying to make a certain idea work, all I need is to be able to my off hand weapon first. So that shouldn't be a problem apparently. Yay ^_^
Huh, oddly enough I didn't see it clarify if I was allowed to use my off-hand first. Only that I must choose which weapon is which. I may have missed it but I didn't see anything that said whether I could or couldn't use my off hand attack first. Also if I use a light weapon in my off-hand the bonus to attack should be the same as my main hand.
Flag for FAQ maybe?
I don't see how a FAQ is needed honestly.
Main hand and off hand are constructs to equalize damage between fighting styles. They only exist if you are TWFing. If you are taking attacks by BAB, there is no main hand even if you use two weapons.
Until you decide you are TWFing there is no main hand/off hand, it isn't a function of the weapons. It is how you decide to use them. You could even switch which weapon is "main" each round.
Is there a particular example you can provide to further explain what you are trying to determine?
I'll take a guess:
Your character is threatening an Easy enemy but can reach a Difficult enemy with a 5-foot step. So, you want to Full-Attack and use the +1 attack on Easy target, take your 5-foot step to threaten the Difficult enemy, and then use the +6 attack on them. Correct?
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You must use attacks in BAB order.
Simple case (Two-Hander): Use the +6 then the +1, in that order.
More complex (TWF, not improved): Use main and off-hand at +6 in either order, then +1 for main hand.
Natural weapons: Take all primary natural attacks in any order, then all secondary natural attacks in any order.
Natural + Two-Hander (BAB+11):
* Two-hander attack first (+11)
* another two-hander + all natural attacks (any order; +6)
* Two-hander again (+1)
Well hopefully it won't be should I a give what I was thinking about a shot.
Take two weapon fighting run around swinging a sword and punching people at the same time. My fist will be my off hand weapon, I want to be able to use it first so I can use stunning fist to possibly stun them before I attack with the sword. Btw flurries of any kind are not involved.
It could work. The off-hand stunning fist could come first before trying to smack them twice with the sword with your iterative attack.
does it matter if the fist is off hand? the damage will be the same if you switch them and have the 2WF feats.
Welli I only planned on getting two weapon fighting. Not improved or greater. So eventually it would matter. Otherwise I'll probably be two handing the sword. But if I and/or the party is struggling to hit it? Stunning fist!! Probably not the best use of feats but it would be cool. I like the flavor of it. Besides every proper melee oriented hero needs to have some skill going at it with fisticuffs. Seriously what fantasy hero has never punched someone in a sword fight. Plus if I'm ever without my weapon well I'll just punch you dead. :P
Always like to be prepared for any scenario you know?
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Yeah, that sounds completely kosher to me. I don't recall it ever saying that you must make "primary hand" attacks before "off hand" attacks anywhere in the rules.
That said, you could also get a Ki Focus weapon and stunning fist with it. :)
True, but I'll probably take two levels of master of many styles to ease the feat madness of what I'm trying to be capable of, so I don't think punching them would be to out the question. Idk exactly how I'll try to go about it, being in a group that wants to be optimized and what not. Perhaps now a trip to the advice forums in order. ^_^
Off hand would matter due to the 1/2 STR mod, unless you took double slice or w/e it was called.
That being said, if you are going monk that removes the 1/2 STR on your unarmed strike. as RAW a monk never makes an unarmed strike as an "off hand" and always gets full STR per their unarmed strike write up.