Stackable DEX-to-damage?

[Phumano]

This is probably a dumb question, but hey, isn't that what we are all here for sometimes :)

I have a PC that wants to use the feat "Fencing Grace" (dex2damage) with an Agile +1 Rapier (Dex2damage).

One is a feat and one is an enhancement. Is there any way the DEX damage would stack?

[JohnHawkins]

They both do exactly the same thing replacing Str to damage with Dex to damage so there is no way they can 'stack'.

[Weirdo]

In general:

FAQ wrote:

Do ability modifiers from the same ability stack? For instance, can you add the same ability bonus on the same roll twice using two different effects that each add that same ability modifier?

No. An ability bonus, such as "Strength bonus", is considered to be the same source for the purpose of bonuses from the same source not stacking. However, you can still add, for instance “a deflection bonus equal to your Charisma modifier” and your Charisma modifier. For this purpose, however, the paladin's untyped "bonus equal to her Charisma bonus (if any) on all saving throws" from divine grace is considered to be the same as "Charisma bonus (if any)", and the same would be true for any other untyped "bonus equal to her [ability score] bonus" constructions.

[Claxon]

Yeah, in general you can never add the same ability twice to anything ever.

[Nefreet]

...unless it's specifically called out that you can, such as at least one Alchemist Discovery (or Archetype, I forget which).

[blackbloodtroll]

Those are two different sources, creating the same effect.

Replace strength with dexterity, and replace strength with dexterity.

It's like an effect that effect that makes you Invisible, and an effect that makes you Invisible. You don't become "double Invisible".

[DinosaursOnIce]

Slightly unrelated, but indict want to start a new thread for it:

Could a magus use blades dash (intelligence as a circumstance bonus) and Arcane accuracy (intelligence as an insight bonus) together?

So let's say they have a +4 intelligence mod. Would the Bladed dash attack (with arcane accuracy active) be a +8 or just a +4?

[The Storm of Swords]

One is a circumstance and one is insight so yes

[blackbloodtroll]

The Storm of Swords wrote:

One is a circumstance and one is insight so yes

No, it's not.

Both explicitly just replace strength for dexterity.

That's it.

EDIT: Whoops, you are not talking about the OP.

Sorry.

[BigDTBone]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Those are two different sources, creating the same effect.

Replace strength with dexterity, and replace strength with dexterity.

It's like an effect that effect that makes you Invisible, and an effect that makes you Invisible. You don't become "double Invisible".

Even effects which don't "do the same thing" won't let you double up a "stat to roll."

Ie, if you had a "add dex to weapon attack and damage," and a "replace STR with DEX for weapon attack and damage rolls," you still couldn't actually get Dex twice.

[James Risner]

BigDTBone wrote:

Ie, if you had a "add dex to weapon attack and damage," and a "replace STR with DEX for weapon attack and damage rolls," you still couldn't actually get Dex twice.

+1

DinosaursOnIce wrote:

Could a magus use blades dash (intelligence as a circumstance bonus) and Arcane accuracy (intelligence as an insight bonus) together? So let's say they have a +4 intelligence mod.

You would get +4 circumstance +4 insight = +8

[glass]

BigDTBone wrote:

Even effects which don't "do the same thing" won't let you double up a "stat to roll."

Ie, if you had a "add dex to weapon attack and damage," and a "replace STR with DEX for weapon attack and damage rolls," you still couldn't actually get Dex twice.

Indeed, it is not a question of stacking, because you only have one Dex bonus to add. There is not second bonus for it to stack with.

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glass.