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To explain the rather odd choice of a LG character choosing to worship a CG deity, I do want to give a brief summary of the character's background. The character is a halfling paladin who grew up in a typical sheltered halfling community. Ever since she was little, she shared her father's fascination with the stars. When she heard of Desna in one of her grandfather's myths, she related heavily to Desna's representation of travel, exploration, and generally wanting to learn more about the world. As a halfling, she also very much respected Desna's luck.
As the halfling began her travels in her early adulthood, she began to see that all was not well with the world, and was greatly disturbed by the evil that came from some of the inhabitants of Golarian. Her choice to become a paladin was a result of her witnessing these acts. Despite knowing that she will need to sacrifice some of her own chaotic freedom to bring peace to the land in which she traveles, she still wishes that one day she will be able to live in a land where freedom won't be abused.
Hence, her wanting to continue worshiping Desna.
So, with this backstory in place, I am still left to make sure that it is legal for a paladin to follow a CG deity in PFS play. I was confused by some of the other postings that I've seen on the subject, and am hoping for a clear answer. I understand that certain classes must be within one step of their worshiped deity, but does this rule apply to paladins as well?
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Yes, that rule applies to Paladins as well. Sorry.
Suggestion: play a warpriest of Desna instead. You can be CG, CN, or NG.
Better: play a Champion of the Faith warpriest of Desna.
Ahh, thank you for clearing that up.
Back to the drawing board!
You must be within one alignment step to worship a deity.
{citation needed}
Err, rather, you must be within one alignment step to gain mechanical benefits from a deity, but Golarion has a pantheon, and everyone is welcome to be Pantheistic.
Thank you. Subtle difference, but yes, in the case of a paladin it would be relevant.
*Edit* Btw, I don't know when this was added to the guide, but it wasn't in the copy I have (from quite a while ago). So worth getting the latest version.
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Allowing two steps would be a neat trait.
Perhaps call it something like "Blind Faith" or "Divine Hypocrisy", with a description along the lines of "Your profound faith in the divine allows you to overlook their moral shortcomings." Taking it grants the ability to worship a deity that is up to two steps away from yours instead of the typical one step.
It could be argued that the deity involved would allow it as it is an opportunity to influence an individual outside of their standard alignment scope (and deities love them some influence).
Just a thought for fun.
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You must be within one alignment step to worship a deity.{citation needed}
Religion: Characters can elect to worship any deity listed in a table of gods in the Core Rulebook, The Inner Sea World Guide, Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Gods and Magic, or any other source listed as an official Additional Resource. For clerics, this is an especially important choice, since the deity’s alignment determines whether the cleric channels positive or negative energy, a decision with significant tactical implications for the cleric and her allies. Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the order of the star, and samurai of the order of the star must choose a deity as all classes in Golarion that receive spells and abilities from a specific divine source receive their powers from a deity. Druids, oracles, and rangers are the exception to this rule. The list is not exhaustive, and divine spellcasters of any future classes whose sources are added as additional resources will be required to choose a deity unless otherwise specified. Otherwise, characters who do not receive powers from a divine source may choose to be atheists or to have no deity at all.
Allowing two steps would be a neat trait.
Perhaps call it something like "Blind Faith" or "Divine Hypocrisy", with a description along the lines of "Your profound faith in the divine allows you to overlook their moral shortcomings." Taking it grants the ability to worship a deity that is up to two steps away from yours instead of the typical one step.
It could be argued that the deity involved would allow it as it is an opportunity to influence an individual outside of their standard alignment scope (and deities love them some influence).
Just a thought for fun.
"Blind Faith" would be a great name for something like this. I'm sure that it could also lead to some interesting interactions/conflicts with other worshipers who are of the deity's alignment. Questions of how a deity's worship is practiced seems like it has great potential for character development.
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Err, rather, you must be within one alignment step to gain mechanical benefits from a deity, but Golarion has a pantheon, and everyone is welcome to be Pantheistic.
This is true of Pathfinder but PFS does actually seem to enforce the one step alignment rule to all player characters should they elect to worship a god.
Characters can elect to worship any deity
listed in a table of gods in the Core Rulebook, The Inner
Sea World Guide, Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Gods and
Magic, or any other source listed as an official Additional
Resource. Characters may elect to worship an evil god,
but must always be within one alignment step of their
chosen deity. For clerics, this is an especially important
choice, since the deity’s alignment determines whether
the cleric channels positive or negative energy, a decision
with significant tactical implications for the cleric and
her allies. Clerics, inquisitors, paladins, cavaliers of the
order of the star, and samurai of the order of the star must
choose a deity as all classes in Golarion that receive spells
and abilities from a specific divine source receive their
powers from a deity. Druids, oracles, and rangers are
the exception to this rule. The list is not exhaustive, and
divine spellcasters of any future classes whose sources are
added as additional resources will be required to choose
a deity unless otherwise specified. Otherwise, characters
who do not receive powers from a divine source may
choose to be atheists or to have no deity at all.
So it seems to me that you could play a atheist paladin but if you choose to play a paladin that worships a god in PFS then it must be a LG, NG or LN god. Seems a bit odd but I can't find anything that would suggest otherwise.
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"Blind Faith" would be a great name for something like this. I'm sure that it could also lead to some interesting interactions/conflicts with other worshipers who are of the deity's alignment. Questions of how a deity's worship is practiced seems like it has great potential for character development.Allowing two steps would be a neat trait.
Perhaps call it something like "Blind Faith" or "Divine Hypocrisy", with a description along the lines of "Your profound faith in the divine allows you to overlook their moral shortcomings." Taking it grants the ability to worship a deity that is up to two steps away from yours instead of the typical one step.
It could be argued that the deity involved would allow it as it is an opportunity to influence an individual outside of their standard alignment scope (and deities love them some influence).
Just a thought for fun.
Nice idea, but it would open up some combinations that would be a bit... odd.
Asmodean or Pharasmin Paladins, for example.
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Err, rather, you must be within one alignment step to gain mechanical benefits from a deity, but Golarion has a pantheon, and everyone is welcome to be Pantheistic.Thank you. Subtle difference, but yes, in the case of a paladin it would be relevant.
*Edit* Btw, I don't know when this was added to the guide, but it wasn't in the copy I have (from quite a while ago). So worth getting the latest version.
It has been in the Guide since August 2009, though on different pages. It was only not in the guide for Season 0 (2008).
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"Blind Faith" would be a great name for something like this. I'm sure that it could also lead to some interesting interactions/conflicts with other worshipers who are of the deity's alignment. Questions of how a deity's worship is practiced seems like it has great potential for character development.Allowing two steps would be a neat trait.
Perhaps call it something like "Blind Faith" or "Divine Hypocrisy", with a description along the lines of "Your profound faith in the divine allows you to overlook their moral shortcomings." Taking it grants the ability to worship a deity that is up to two steps away from yours instead of the typical one step.
It could be argued that the deity involved would allow it as it is an opportunity to influence an individual outside of their standard alignment scope (and deities love them some influence).
Just a thought for fun.
Nice idea, but it would open up some combinations that would be a bit... odd.
Asmodean or Pharasmin Paladins, for example.
I admit that this type of 'odd' always appeals to me; I like quirky things like that. It's also worth mentioning that this sort of trait does have mild precedence (at least in that a trait may influence alignment requirements) in the 'Enlightened Warrior' trait, which allows a monk to be of a different alignment (albeit also limited) than it's class requires.
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I admit that this type of 'odd' always appeals to me; I like quirky things like that. It's also worth mentioning that this sort of trait does have mild precedence (at least in that a trait may influence alignment requirements) in the 'Enlightened Warrior' trait, which allows a monk to be of a different alignment (albeit also limited) than it's class requires."Blind Faith" would be a great name for something like this. I'm sure that it could also lead to some interesting interactions/conflicts with other worshipers who are of the deity's alignment. Questions of how a deity's worship is practiced seems like it has great potential for character development.Allowing two steps would be a neat trait.
Perhaps call it something like "Blind Faith" or "Divine Hypocrisy", with a description along the lines of "Your profound faith in the divine allows you to overlook their moral shortcomings." Taking it grants the ability to worship a deity that is up to two steps away from yours instead of the typical one step.
It could be argued that the deity involved would allow it as it is an opportunity to influence an individual outside of their standard alignment scope (and deities love them some influence).
Just a thought for fun.
Nice idea, but it would open up some combinations that would be a bit... odd.
Asmodean or Pharasmin Paladins, for example.
I would seriously love to see a Paladin archetype similar to Martial Artist, that removes one of the alignment restrictions, if not both of them, from the Paladin class. Of course, there would be trade-offs, but it ought to be interesting, at least.
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I would seriously love to see a Paladin archetype similar to Martial Artist, that removes one of the alignment restrictions, if not both of them, from the Paladin class. Of course, there would be trade-offs, but it ought to be interesting, at least.
They did this as a PrC. It's called the Hellknight.
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And of course, there is the WarPriest.They did this as a PrC. It's called the Hellknight.
I would seriously love to see a Paladin archetype similar to Martial Artist, that removes one of the alignment restrictions, if not both of them, from the Paladin class. Of course, there would be trade-offs, but it ought to be interesting, at least.
Or Inquisitor.
