Unchained Rogue, and Elf Favored Class Bonus Issue?


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Ok, so I potentially found an issue with the Elf, and Unchained Rogue's Favored Class Option.

Here's the Elf Favored Class option for Rogues.

Rogue: Add +1 to the number of times per day the rogue can cast a cantrip or 1st-level spell gained from the minor magic or major magic talent. The number of times this bonus is selected for the major magic talent cannot exceed the number of times it is selected for the minor magic talent. The rogue must possess the associated rogue talent to select these options.

Here's Minor Magic:

Minor Magic (Sp): A rogue with this talent gains the ability to cast a 0-level spell from the sorcerer/wizard spell list. This spell can be cast at will as a spell-like ability. The rogue’s caster level for this ability is equal to her rogue level. The save DC for this spell is 10 + the rogue’s Intelligence modifier. A rogue must have an Intelligence score of at least 10 to select this talent.

Now, as Unchained Rogue, Minor Magic is now an At Will ability. Does this unqualify me to use the Favored Class Option, since you cannot increase a SLA past At Will?

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I would seems that the Elf favored class bonus is now out of date. Too be fair it was a pretty terrible choice to begin with, so doubt few tears will be shed. Honestly you will either have to wait for the developers to update the elf favored class bonus for rogue or just take one of the default favored class choices. An extra HP or skill point a lvl are still very useful.

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Just remove the "cannot be greater than the number of times" clause. I marked it for a faq anyway.


sacklunch wrote:
I would seems that the Elf favored class bonus is now out of date. Too be fair it was a pretty terrible choice to begin with, so doubt few tears will be shed. Honestly you will either have to wait for the developers to update the elf favored class bonus for rogue or just take one of the default favored class choices. An extra HP or skill point a lvl are still very useful.

Darn. I was really hoping they Errated it, since I'm trying to make a Rogue that fakes being a WizarD. Oh well.


Matthew Morris wrote:
Just remove the "cannot be greater than the number of times" clause. I marked it for a faq anyway.

Any ideas if this is PFS legal?


That is not PFS legal. You would still have to put more FCBs into the minor magic, even though it will do nothing, to be able to increase the major magic talent.

This is still fine for the core rogue, and the unchained classes kind of came with the assumption that not everything would work perfectly between them and abilities based on the old ones, so I doubt it'll be changed.

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