baleful polymorph

[Mhart7707]

Ok so a monster that my wife PC'S was fighting successfully cast baleful polymorph on a Pc and turned him into a fox. This PC failed both checks and my question is "is he just a fox or does he retain some of his personality and how can it be reversed?" Thank you

[darrenan]

Not sure about the first part, but dispel magic (or greater) should be able to remove the effect.

[Mhart7707]

Really ok I didn't think that it would seeing as its duration is permanent and no other polymorph spells can effect it. can the caster end the spell if he chooses?

[darrenan]

I wouldn't think so since the duration does not include the (D) specification.

[Mhart7707]

Ok sounds good and here I thought that the spell was way OP for a lvl 5 spell

[darrenan]

From Duration:

Spoiler:

Permanent

The energy remains as long as the effect does. This means the spell is vulnerable to dispel magic.

[Mhart7707]

Awesome ty

[Tacticslion]

It's important to note the difference between Permanent and Instantaneous. If it was the latter, the guy'd just be a fox forever. That's it. Don't pass go. Don't collect... well, anything, really.

He's just a fox with (potentially) a few unusual abilities (non Ex, Su, or Sp and no Spellcasting).

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut, because it's Permanent instead, it can be dispelled and undone.

(Of course, even if it weren't subject to dispel magic - which it is - it'd still be subject to break enchantment.)

[Stormwhisper]

Question
I have a similar problem in my campaign
Our witch stated that she had placed her familiar in a pocket prior to the encounter (it's tiny) she then failed the fort save against baleful polymorph, turning her into a rabbit. She did succeed on the will save and as such retains her memories and such.
Since her gear melds into her, what happens to the familiar?? Is it ejected from the pocket? Does it get saves of its own even though it's not the target of the spell? Is it destroyed? Or is it now apart of the new form, as in two minds occupying the same body?
I have searched through books and various forums and have not come across anything like this situation. Advice please

[Splendor]

Since the familiar is a creature and not equipment is doesn't meld with her.

The gear would meld into the witch leaving her familiar out and exposed. (Picture the pocket retracting down and around the familiar, not crushing the familiar as it contracts.).

[Stormwhisper]

That make sense thank you
I would assume then that since the witch succeeded on the will save, that the familiar would still recognize her as its master.