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There is a line in the rules regarding animal companions that is giving me hiccups. I should note that I'm primarily thinking of this in the context of PFS, so home brew rules don't apply.
"Note that animal companions cannot select a feat with a requirement of base attack bonus +1 until they gain their second feat at 3 Hit Dice."
Source: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions
First - am I really reading this correctly? Animal Companions cannot take feats with a +1 BAB requirement until they are level 2 (which is when they get their third HD - they get 2 at level 1)? They *do* have a BAB of 1 at first level, so this is very strange.
Second - if the above is true, let's do an 'Explain it like I'm five' - why are animal companions penalized in this way?
Lastly - The pregen character Adowyn, which is the iconic hunter, has a wolf with Weapon Focus on its Bite, which is a feat that requires BAB + 1. Is this build then not strictly legal in a PFS sense? I'm aware that there are a number of rules issues with the pregens and I'm wondering if this is another issue.
Thanks!
That statement is based on the idea that you cannot take feats before you qualify for them. It is no different from any other creature with a BAB of +0 at 1 HD.
For example, a Level 1 Druid cannot take Weapon Focus until they are level 2 and since they don't have a feat available until level 3 they won't be able to take Weapon Focus until level 3.
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They have two HD when their master has one level, but they get their first feat at one HD, when they have BAB of +0.
Okay - this makes it much more clear and helps me to understand why Eidolons (which have 1 HD and 1 BAB at level 1) do not have this penalty.
So - this does apparently mean that the pregen Adowyn isn't entirely built by the rules. Like I said, there's a couple of others (I seem to recall at least two pregens have two combat traits).
Thanks!
Where did you see the pregens that violate the rules at?
claudekennilol, I saw the name, now I would like to know the source (book/page number).
So again, where are the pregens that violate the rules at?
find the pregen downloadable packet on this webside. download it. Look at the lv1 hunter pregen file. Look at her animal companion.
Thank you for the information Chess Pwn, unfortunately, the Free Downloads does not have it the pregens.
The NPC Guide does not have Adowyn either (it is the first place I checked).
Is it in one of the other for sale books? If so which one?
And yes, the animal companion is wrong. It can't have Weapon Focus (bite) at first level.
Jeraa, thank you, I would have never thought to go searching through the Pathfinder Society pregens as that is a sub-element of the system that does not apply to the system as a whole.
Hollister, since the problem is with PFS specific pregens I would suggest taking it up with them.
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Jeraa, thank you, I would have never thought to go searching through the Pathfinder Society pregens as that is a sub-element of the system that does not apply to the system as a whole.
Hollister, since the problem is with PFS specific pregens I would suggest taking it up with them.
Run the pregens as written. This one is definitely not the only one with an oversight.
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There's a good number of these types of errors. I'm currently going through the pregens for a personal project and building my own interpretations.
Hakon has Weapon Focus as well - and he's a 0 BAB Skald. In my rebuild of him I stuck him with Double Slice to give his offhand hand axe an edge. He can get Weapon Focus at level 3 instead.
I'm not trying to correct the pregens necessarily as much as I am just verifying that these are not the correct ways to make a PFS legal character.
Edit: Also, sorry for not supplying the link to the pregens! Didn't mean to make people go on a goose hunt.
Edit #2: Ahhhhahaha - Hakon also has Guidance as a level 0 spell, and Skalds (and Bards, apparently) do not have Guidance on their spell list.