| arcanine |
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Is the damage from elemental fist precision damage or weapon damage?
Would it multiply on a critical?
The bleed damage from boar style would it damage an undead? I have read the forms and some are iffy on it.
Would dragon style and horn of the Criosphinx deal 2.5 str on a charge?
Would you consider dragon ferocity the must have style for a fighter/brawler to have? With a 2 level dip in monk to have 1.5 str to unarmed attacks? It would solve the damage problem for TWF over coming DR.
| kestral287 |
Elemental Fist: Neither, it does not multiply on a crit. It functions as the Flaming (et al) property
Boar Style: Undead are immune to bleeds as a general rule. There may be a specific one that it works against, but that would be a noted exception.
Dragon Style + Horn: If you have a way to make an Unarmed Strike a two-handed weapon, yes. Otherwise, no.
EDIT: No. Dragon Style explicitly says you use 1.5x Str, Horn says 2x. Dragon Ferocity will stack with Horn (again, assuming both qualify), but Dragon Style will not.
Ferocity: Not in the least. It only works for unarmed strikes, which rules it out for many builds, and is competing directly with Pummeling Style (which offers superior mobility and anti-DR capabilities). Where the Dragon Style chain really shines is with a Master of Many styles 2/Brawler or Sacred Fist X, where it can be used with Pummeling Style for ridiculousness. How much ridiculousness depends on what your GM thinks about how they stack, mind, but it's a lot of firepower either way.
Jeff Merola
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Elemental Fist does elemental damage (fire, electricity, cold, or acid). It still doesn't multiply, as it's bonus dice.
Boar Style would actually work on an undead, but not Boar Shred, as it was FAQed to not actually be bleed.
Dragon Style doesn't work with Horn, and I don't think Ferocity would work either. It has some iffy wording, thanks to this FAQ. It says increase, but then it says "to a total of".
| thunderbeard |
Ferocity is... okay. If you're going to be a pure monk, straight Pummeling Charge + Horn of the Criosphinx gives far more single-target damage than MoMS, since the archetype loses you half your attacks (and a lot of your crit rate) by taking away Flurry.
If you are going MoMS 2/Brawler X (or MoMS 2/Unarmed Fighter 1/Brawler X), Dragon Ferocity is nice, but I personally prefer Cudgeler or Janni Style (if you can get big easily) as a second style to stack with Pummeling. Pummeling Bully + Cudgeler Takedown + Tripping/Disarming Strike lets you get three free maneuvers against everyone you hit, as well as a stun much better than Stunning Fist gives.
There are other ways to get even more ridiculous, though. A Wild Child Brawler with Pummeling Style and Spirited Charge gets to deal 4x Str damage on each attack—and he gets a LOT of attacks.
And If you are the height of insane, you play this in a gestalt game where you can cross MoMS 8 with Dragoon fighter and Janni Rush as a third style to combine with Cudgeler and Pummeling. Suddenly, you can leap from your mount to deal 4x Weapon AND 4x Strength damage; and if you're under the effects of Enlarge Person, your base weapon damage is 6d6... and your GM will never let anyone play a gestalt monk ever again.