Claw Attacks Primary or Secondary Natural Attacks?

[swordfalcon]

I have just recently started a new campaign and have decided to play as a druid with an Allosaurus as my animal companion. But after reading his stat block in the animal companion section it states that his claw attacks are secondary, but the universal monster rules states claws are primary.

These leads me to the question, are claw attacks primary or secondary for animal companions? Any help or clarification would be greatly appreciated

[blackbloodtroll]

I don't see that at all.

Where did your statblock come from?

It didn't come from the PRD entry here.

[Jakken]

The Allosaurus AnC is a different stat block to the Bestiary one:

AnC Allosaurus

In this case, I'd say the Allosaurus AnC has secondary claw attacks as it's effectively a different creature

[Gisher]

I don't see anything indicating that they are secondary either.

[blackbloodtroll]

Where is there anything that states it overrides the Universal Monster Rules?

Claws are primary, unless something specifically says otherwise.

Where did this incorrect statblock come from?

[Jakken]

Gisher wrote:

I don't see anything indicating that they are secondary either.

Hmm, seems there's conflicting SRD entires. In that case, I'd go with the one Blackbloodtroll posted, with claws as primary

[blackbloodtroll]

Where is the "conflicting" one?

[jerdog]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Where is the "conflicting" one?

The other statblock was from d20pfsrd.

[Gisher]

Jakken wrote:

The Allosaurus AnC is a different stat block to the Bestiary one:

AnC Allosaurus

In this case, I'd say the Allosaurus AnC has secondary claw attacks as it's effectively a different creature

That footnote at d20pfsrd doesn't exist in the Allosaurus Animal Companion statblock in the PRD.

[blackbloodtroll]

Well, I checked the official sources, of the PRD, and my updated copy of the Bestiary, and there is no indication of secondary claws, for the Allosaurus.

[wraithstrike]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

Well, I checked the official sources, of the PRD, and my updated copy of the Bestiary, and there is no indication of secondary claws, for the Allosaurus.

I think whoever made that footnote got confused with the rules. I sent a notice to the owner of the site. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

[blackbloodtroll]

Likely thought of Talons.

[Nefreet]

Many ppl never realize that d20pfsrd is a third party site, and not affiliated with Paizo.

Or that they must actually modify content in order to respect copyrights.

Hopefully those that are are reading this thread now, that were unaware before, are aware now.

[blackbloodtroll]

I realize it's third party site.

They usually have the latest updates, errata, and FAQs incorporated though.

It occasionally has mistakes, but those are usually fixed, faster than material on the PRD.

So, it has it's advantages, and disadvantages.

I like their spell search function.

[Nefreet]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

I realize it's third party site.

That particular post of mine wasn't directed at you, but other posters and potential readers.

blackbloodtroll wrote:

I like their spell search function.

Archives of Nethys has the same sort of search, and is more accurate, if you want to give it a try.

[blackbloodtroll]

I have not tried it, since it was updated.

That was some time ago.

Also, I know it wasn't directed at me, but felt it was an appropriate opening statement, to the rest of the post following.

[swordfalcon]

Thanks for the replies and clearing that issue up guys.