Free Concentration

[D4rtagnan]

Yeah, so I am trying to remember is there any type of spell out there that gives you a free pass on a Concentration check?

Essentially I am trying to figure out how to cast a spell while concentrating on another spell....with out accessing metamagic quicken.

[kestral287]

Concentrating on an ongoing spell (as in one with Duration: Concentration) doesn't require a Concentration check. It requires a standard action, which is an entirely different kettle of fish. You can be made to make a concentration check, if you take damage or the like, but not from casting another spell-- that doesn't work because of the actions involved.

The only way to outright avoid concentration checks (from Casting Defensively, etc.) is with a mythic path ability. To my knowledge there's no way to bypass the standard action requirement to concentrate on an existing spell.

EDIT: Also, Duration: Concentration outright specifies that "You can't cast a spell while concentrating on another one."

So yeah, unless there's something to break that rule which I'm not aware of (possible, certainly), then there's no way to do this.

[Jaunt]

Effortless Trickery lets you concentrate as a swift action for illusions. School Familiar (Illusion) lets you hand off concentration of an illusion spell to your familiar.

It still doesn't get you around the explicit "can't cast another spell" problem.

[Cuuniyevo]

Well, if you want to be a Gnome and cast Illusion magic, there are these:

Effortless Trickery
Phantasmal Gem

You may be able to get the Gem without being a Gnome, but it's not worth as much if you aren't able to recharge it.

EDIT: Bah, I've been ninja'd while I was searching through the spells. xD

[DM_Blake]

Jaunt wrote:

It still doesn't get you around the explicit "can't cast another spell" problem.

And it shouldn't.

Pretty much every spell out there that requires concentration to maintain has some pretty strong effects. It's kind of like casting a new spell every round and getting the full benefits, but without actually casting a new spell - you concentrate to maintain the old one and still get the full benefits.

That's kinda big.

Letting you do that AND cast more spells is like letting you do two useful things in a round (or three if you also do a quickened spell, too).

Casters are definitely powerful enough that they don't need that.

I don't know of any ability that makes this work and I'm sure I'd ban it very quickly if I came a cross one, except maybe at the extreme upper levels/mythic tiers where characters are nearly godlike anyway.

[Snow_Tiger]

Adjuring step is what you are looking for i think

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/spells/adjuringStep.html# adjuring-step-

[Link-Bot]

Snow_Tiger wrote:

Adjuring step is what you are looking for i think

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCombat/spells/adjuringStep.html# adjuring-step-

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[Trigger Loaded]

Back in 3.5, there was a third level spell called Sonorous Hum (Spell Compendium) that reduced the time rewuired to concentrate. I forget the full reading, but I remember using it a few times. It MAY be Cleric only, though...

[Braingamer]

Bards can do it.

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