Blind Prophet
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Heya! Quick question for those more informed.
I'm looking at making a Monk of the Empty Hand, and I'm planning ahead at feats I'd like to take. Rule of Cool, I'm sure I could convince my DM to let me take WF (Chair) and such, but i'd like to look at it from a RAW point of view, if I may.
I'm looking at feats like say...WF, Improved Critical, etc that require you to specify a weapon.
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Improved Critical (Combat):
Prerequisite: Proficient with weapon, base attack bonus +8.
Benefit: When using the weapon you selected, your threat range is doubled.
Special: You can gain Improved Critical multiple times. The effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new type of weapon.
This effect doesn't stack with any other effect that expands the threat range of a weapon.
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Since the monk of the empty hand only gets proficiency with shurikens and literally treats every other weapon as an improvised weapon...Well, I understand that it would literally break the game if I were able to take WF (Improvised Weapon) and Improved Critical (Improvised Weapon). Could I take WF (Chair)? If I can't, RAW, just take the feats with this specific class, is there a way I would be able to?
The only reason why I would even bring this up, is because the State of Oregon recongizes Nike shoes to be deadly weapons, and a man got convicted to 100 years in jail for beating someone to death with them.
If you're interested in the story, it can be found at http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/pimp_convicted_of_stomping_customer
| SlimGauge |
Strict RAW, you must have proficiency with a weapon before you can take Weapon Focus.
Improvised Weapons says "Because such objects are not designed for this use, any creature that uses an improvised weapon in combat is considered to be nonproficient with it and takes a –4 penalty on attack rolls made with that object."
The Monk of the Empty Hands Improvised Weapons Mastery negates the second part of that AND but says nothing about the first part.
If I can find the old thread, BBT figured out a way with a ranger dip.
EDIT: This thread A ranger can get WF without having to meet the prerequisites as a combat style feat.
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How to make Jackie Chan:
Classes:
Monk of the Empty Hand
Sacred Fist/Warpriest (gives access to Refine Improvised Weapon at lv1 and Improved Unarmed Strike for free)
Feral Gnasher Barbarian (Goblin-only)
Wildcat Monk (applies Unarmed Strike damage to Improvised Weapons starting at 4th level)
Nature Warden (Prestige Class)
Traits:
Rough & Ready
Improvised Defense
Combat Style Feat:
Weapon Focus (freshwater fish)
Feats:
Greater/Improved/Two-Weapon Fighting
Catch Off-Guard
Throw Anything
Improvised Weapon Mastery
Equipment Trick (many, many times)
Improved Improvisation (Human Racial Feat)
Chairbreaker
Raging Hurler (classes with Rage/Bloodrage only)
Torch Fighter
Spells: Refine Improvised Weapon (Cleric/Ranger spell, so Cleric, Oracle, Warpriest, Ranger, or Hunter can use) This is how you turn Fish into nanchaku.
Workarounds
Warpriest takes Weapon Focus (Longsword) (for example). Pick up a random object (like a haddock), and casts Refine Improvised Weapon on it, turning it into a Longsword for all intents and purposes. Proceed to kill the Dragon with a haddock.