Synergist Witch and Mauler familliar shenanigans.

[Reid Richter]

I always liked the idea of two characters combining, this brings me to the mauler familliar and its possible interaction with a synergist witch.

While fused they count as a single being, so would all the class abilities of the familliar also apply?

Would this for example grant a small halfling fused with a mauler familliar the ability to increase to medium size? along with the size bonuses to strength?.
( from small to medium including level based bonus is +8 Str, -2 Dex, and +2 Con)

If so holy crap, if not food for thought.

[Reid Richter]

Really? Nothing, I thought that this worked like all shapeshifting spells and abilities, like turning into a doppelganger giving you all exotic weapons and spell triggers.

[Chess Pwn]

You're looking at the wrong table for increases. You look at the polymorph table, not the monster size increases.

[Abraham spalding]

That's... not how this works.

That's not how any of this works.

Did you not read what the entry states? It literally tells you everything you gain and nothing more.

You don't get any ability increases from the merge.

In fact it looks like you don't know anything about how polymorph spells work in pathfinder.

[LazarX]

3.5 player, no doubt.

[Melkiador]

I've been doing PF for a while now and didn't actually realize there was a seperate table for size changes in the magic section until the familiar folio. The whole polymorph school never interested me enough to read its entries. And the mauler never tells you to check out the table there.

[Reid Richter]

Ah, the polymorph table does indeed have different stat increases.
The reason I thought this was how it worked was because the familiar becomes part of you, so if the familiar would do anything regarding to it's own body it would happen to you instead.

Would be rather weird for a halfling to suddenly have a medium-sized bulge sticking out of him.

No mention is made of any polymorph effect until it mentions beastshape.

I have never played 3.5 apart from some after highschool tomfoolery far before I even started pathfinder(didnt last more than 2 weeks).

But I do digress that after some digging realize that I was wrong about polymorph, it notes all the abilites that you can get in the spell description.

I just want to know how the maulers combat form works when fused with the witch.

And to clarify, I'm not saying Im getting higher stats from the merge, it's what happens AFTER that Im interested in.

[Abraham spalding]

It doesn't. You only get the abilities the merge ability says you get.

The part about polymorph was specific to the bit about doppelganger which -- quite frankly I'm not even sure why you would think that would do anything for you.

But hey it's easy to miss stuff with as much information as is in the books.

[Reid Richter]

So the mauler can't use its combat form ability while merged?
No interaction in any way? Well thats dull.