Alchemist (MindChemist) and Shaman (Lore-Benefit of Wisdom) interaction?


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Grand Lodge

Hi guys, by RAW does this work?

Mindchemist 2 Perfect recall:
At 2nd level, a mindchemist has honed his memory. When making a Knowledge check, he may add his Intelligence bonus on the check a second time. Thus, a mindchemist with 5 ranks in Knowledge (history) and a +2 Intelligence bonus has a total skill bonus of +9 (5 + 2 + 2) using this ability. The mindchemist can also use this ability when making an Intelligence check to remember something.

Shaman Lore-Benefit of Wisdom:
Benefit of Wisdom (Ex): The shaman relies on wisdom rather than intellect to gain and retain knowledge. She can use her Wisdom modifier instead of her Intelligence modifier on all Intelligence-based skill checks.

Would a Character with these two abilities add double their Wisdom Modifier to Knowledge checks?

And would that also stack with the Shaman Lore Spirit Ability?

Monstrous Insight (Su): The shaman can identify creatures and gain insight into their strengths and weaknesses. As a standard action, the shaman can attempt a Knowledge skill check to identify a creature and its abilities (using the appropriate skill for the monster's type) with an insight bonus equal to her shaman level. Whether or not the check is successful, she also gains a +2 insight bonus for 1 minute on attack rolls made against that creature and a +2 insight bonus to her AC against attacks made by that creature. These bonuses last for 1 minute. The shaman can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + her Charisma modifier.


No to the first and yes to the second questions.

Clearly says intelligence for the ability, and nothing in the shaman gift says it alters that.

And the player would add intelligence once and (assuming you got the shaman power) wisdom once.

No real synergy there. If your intelligence modifier is large enough to be greater than your Wisdom when doubled, skip benefit of wisdom then. But that's a two level dip for no real payoff.

Grand Lodge

Cavall wrote:

No to the first and yes to the second questions.

Clearly says intelligence for the ability, and nothing in the shaman gift says it alters that.

And the player would add intelligence once and (assuming you got the shaman power) wisdom once.

No real synergy there. If your intelligence modifier is large enough to be greater than your Wisdom when doubled, skip benefit of wisdom then. But that's a two level dip for no real payoff.

So you think that a character with the first two abilities would roll a knowledge check like this?

Int + Wis + ranks + d20?

Why would it replace one Int mod but not the other? Sorry I'm not that good with replacement effects but would like to understand whats going on here.

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