I am curious if DR of the same type from different sources stack, overlap, or cancel one another out.
I saw a build recently where it had a Invulnerable Rager Barbarian with a DR of DR 18/- and I have no idea how they got it. Unless it stacks with other DRs
Some sources of DR stack, and some don't. It depends on the wording of the ability that gives the DR.
Interesting, I would love to know hows the best way to make the Rager even more invulnerable.
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for any situation you use the highest dr. If your enemy can't bypass the DR/Evil (most likely higher than dr from adamantine armor), your enemy will remove that much from his damage. Now if the enemy can bypass your dr/evil, it still can't bypass the dr/- , so it would come down to the dr/- from adamantine armor.
I am curious if you can get it past the DR 13/- of the Invulnerable rager over all. I think with Adamantine Heavy Armor it would go to DR 16/-
Dang stack this onto a Bloodrager with the right Archetypes and you are Fast healing 6 DR 13/- With the option of burning a spell slot to heal yourself further.
I am curious if you can get it past the DR 13/- of the Invulnerable rager over all. I think with Adamantine Heavy Armor it would go to DR 16/-
Dang stack this onto a Bloodrager with the right Archetypes and you are Fast healing 6 DR 13/- With the option of burning a spell slot to heal yourself further.
The Barb/bloodrager DR doesn't stack with Adamantine armor. So if you have natural DR from those classes the Adamantine DR is never used.
Also the bloodrager wont have Fast healing 6 DR 13/- because to get that high of a fast healing they have to be all bloodrager and thus have no innate DR.
I meant in like a Gestalt
DR 13 from the class and the Improved DR Rage Power, and Fast Healing 6 from Bloodrager
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I am curious if you can get it past the DR 13/- of the Invulnerable rager over all. I think with Adamantine Heavy Armor it would go to DR 16/-
Dang stack this onto a Bloodrager with the right Archetypes and you are Fast healing 6 DR 13/- With the option of burning a spell slot to heal yourself further.
The Barb/bloodrager DR doesn't stack with Adamantine armor. So if you have natural DR from those classes the Adamantine DR is never used.
Also the bloodrager wont have Fast healing 6 DR 13/- because to get that high of a fast healing they have to be all bloodrager and thus have no innate DR.
It's the spelleater archetype which both grants fast healing and gets rid of DR.
Standard bloodragers do have class-based DR. It just doesn't get as high because they don't have access to the invulnerable rager archetype.
EDIT: You could gestalt that but it's a terrible idea because most of your class features (rage, HP, saves, BAB) would be redundant and your rage powers and bloodline abilities would not be usable in the same time (since one requires rage and the other bloodrage).
Interesting, I would love to know hows the best way to make the Rager even more invulnerable.
Stalwart and Improved Stalwart feats, which is probably what the build you saw is using to get DR 18/-
I meant in like a Gestalt
DR 13 from the class and the Improved DR Rage Power, and Fast Healing 6 from Bloodrager
Oh, a misunderstanding. I don't play any gestalt so I don't instantly think that people are talking about using Gastalt unless somewhere Gestalt has been mentioned. So my comments were assuming a multi-class character
f the spelleater gains an increase to damage reduction from a bloodline, feat, or other ability, he is considered to have an effective damage reduction of 0, and the increase is instead added to this effective damage reduction.
Well I meant from that. This basically reads as you do not get the DR abilities of the normal Bloodrager.
Also wouldn't that bring you to something like DR 20/- at level twenty then? But like DR 40/- vs Non-Lethal?
Also the bloodrager wont have Fast healing 6 DR 13/- because to get that high of a fast healing they have to be all bloodrager and thus have no innate DR.It's the spelleater archetype which both grants fast healing and gets rid of DR.
Standard bloodragers do have class-based DR. It just doesn't get as high because they don't have access to the invulnerable rager archetype.
Yes, my post says that very thing. If he's to have fast healing 6 then he's a full level spell eating bloodrager and has no innate DR (yes he has DR 0/- which is better than no DR). And standard bloodragers could get DR 13/- with stalwart and Improved eventually.
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ChessPwn, I misread your post as "full bloodragers don't get DR." This thread is moving fast I'm trying to keep up.
Standard bloodragers don't get DR as high as the Invulnerable Rager, was my point.
This basically reads as you do not get the DR abilities of the normal Bloodrager.
That's correct, the fast healing replaces DR (and IIRC uncanny dodge).
Also wouldn't that bring you to something like DR 20/- at level twenty then? But like DR 40/- vs Non-Lethal?
You mean Improved Stalwart? Yes, it DR 23/- if you take the Improved DR rage power to the limit. Though I don't think the stalwart increase DR doubles vs nonlethal so that would be (13*2)+10 = 36/-.
Yes, my post says that very thing. If he's to have fast healing 6 then he's a full level spell eating bloodrager and has no innate DR (yes he has DR 0/- which is better than no DR). And standard bloodragers could get DR 13/- with stalwart and Improved eventually.
Also the bloodrager wont have Fast healing 6 DR 13/- because to get that high of a fast healing they have to be all bloodrager and thus have no innate DR.It's the spelleater archetype which both grants fast healing and gets rid of DR.
Standard bloodragers do have class-based DR. It just doesn't get as high because they don't have access to the invulnerable rager archetype.
Actually normal bloodragers get DR 5 normally at level 20, but Dr 15 with the feats.
This is making me want to rekindle one of my old Half-Troll characters from 3.5
DR and Fast healing, Regen 1 (troll blooded feat), and massive Str and Con bonuses
Actually normal bloodragers get DR 5 normally at level 20, but Dr 15 with the feats.
And standard bloodragers could get DR 13/- with stalwart and Improved eventually.
I was aware of that when I posted. And along the way to that DR 5 he'll have DR 3, which with the feats is DR 13, which was the value used in the example. I wasn't stating that DR 13 was by any means the cap, but that eventually the DR 13 from the example could be reached.