Sherlock Holmes


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Silver Crusade

sherlock:

Sherlock Holmes-
Investigator- Slueth/mastermind 18
25pt buy, Human
Stats:
Str: 14
Dex: 16 +1+1
Con: 10
Int: 22 +2+ 1+1
Wis: 12
Cha: 14

Investigator Talent:
Applied Engineering, Inspired Alertness, Perceptive tracking, Edetic Recollection, combat inspiration, Tenacious inspiration, Confusing strike, rogue talent :canny observer, Rogue Talent: Quick disguise, Quick study, Greater combat inspiration, Device Talent,

Feats: skill focus (perception), Iron will
3- Dodge
5- combat reflexes
7-weapon focus Sword cane
9-extra investigator talent,
11- Extra Investigator talent,
13-Extra Investigator talent
15- Exotic weapon proficiency (firearm)
17-???

Skills-
Know. History-15
Know. Relegion-15
Know. Local-15
Know. Noblility-10
Know. Arcana-10
Know. Engineering-15
Know. Planes-10
Know. Nature-5
Acrobatics-10
Sense Motive-15
Perception-17
Escape Artist-10
Sleight of Hand- 15
Disguise-15
UMD-10
Stealth-10
Disable Device-15
Linguistics-10
Climb-5
Bluff-10
Swim-5

This is a work in progress, And I come to paizo to ask for its poster's great wisdom.

Thoughts- other ways to match holmes? I am undecided on whether or not the slueth fits him, Ex. He never particularly makes his own posions/potions/ect... but he has an immense knowledge of chemistry.

Magical items? ofc we have a couple obligatory things, but other than those?


Actually... The Empiricist is the first archetype that comes to mind for me with Sherlock.

Grand Lodge

Yup.

Empiricist is perfect.

Silver Crusade

I had completely missed that archetype! *facepalm* your right, its bloody perfect.

except I couldn't then take the mastermind archetype :/


Dipping a level of Brawler or Monk for some unarmed prowess might be beneficial.

Perhaps MoMS Monk, that way you can use both Snake Style & Kirin Style?

Silver Crusade

Zonugal wrote:

Dipping a level of Brawler or Monk for some unarmed prowess might be beneficial.

Perhaps MoMS Monk, that way you can use both Snake Style & Kirin Style?

I had considered that, it would help represent his martial abilities, tbh I feel like he is BEST represented by a

Brawler(or monk)/investigator gestalt, but I didn't do that Since most games are non gestalt (yeash, I plan to play this guy in a campaign :3 hopefully one not starting at level 1...)

Grand Lodge

I personally Like a Inspired Blade 1 level dip. Early it allows you to have combat abilities prior to level 4 as it is the most painful of the levels. It locks you into a Rapier but honestly I believe Sherlock could fence as it was a English past time. At least more so then the Wing Chun he did in the movies. Wing Chun was invented only 100 years prior and was very secretive even in its own country of origin. It wasn't even made into a public style school for the first 150 years. And in its beginning was only taught to select people (chinese).

Anyways yeah if you have to start low levels Dipping swashbuckler inspired blade and picking up fencing grace and the early mutagen is definitely a strong option for early combat prowess.

My build typically looks like:
Inspired Blade 1/Empiricist Investigator X


Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:
I personally Like a Inspired Blade 1 level dip. Early it allows you to have combat abilities prior to level 4 as it is the most painful of the levels. It locks you into a Rapier but honestly I believe Sherlock could fence as it was a English past time. At least more so then the Wing Chun he did in the movies.

Sherlock didn't do Wing Chun, but he was known to be a master of "baritsu," believed to be a misspelling of bartitsu, a martial art popular in England in the late 19th century.

Silver Crusade

Sherlock was actually a very proficient swordsman (at least in the books) the movies leaned more on his martial arts ability, but he was a fantastic swordsmen.

Grand Lodge

In the recent movies with RDJr it was Wing Chun he was doing. I promise you that.

The entire Slow motion part is fully wing chun as I've practiced martial arts for over 12 years and have studied it close enough to Identify it.

The original story mentions Bartitsu and I'm sure that is what they wanted to identify it as. But the fight screen coordinator clearly used Wing Chun in the actual movie.


Fruian Thistlefoot wrote:
In the recent movies with RDJr it was Wing Chun he was doing. I promise you that.[...] But the fight screen coordinator clearly used Wing Chun in the actual movie.

Well, yes. Similarly, Star Wars was filmed in Tunisia instead of the planet Tatooine in "a galaxy far, far away." If you think the fight coordinator would have been familiar with an obscure martial art that more or less vanished from the public view c. 1905,....

My point is simply that it is, in fact, part of Holmesian canon that Mr. Holmes was indeed an expert at unarmed hand-to-hand fighting.


rorek55 wrote:

I had completely missed that archetype! *facepalm* your right, its bloody perfect.

except I couldn't then take the mastermind archetype :/

Isn't the Mastermind archetype more Moriarty's thing? :)

Silver Crusade

I love the fact the you have 0 diplomacy.

The question is, is this Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Robert Downey Jr. or Benedict Cumberbatch? I have watched the shows/movies, and read Hounds of Baskerville, and really only see Robert Downey Jr. fighting pugilist style in his movies...


4 levels of Sleepless Detective for the Eye for Detail ability may be appropriate.

Scarab Sages

Robert Burnell 821 wrote:

I love the fact the you have 0 diplomacy.

The question is, is this Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Robert Downey Jr. or Benedict Cumberbatch? I have watched the shows/movies, and read Hounds of Baskerville, and really only see Robert Downey Jr. fighting pugilist style in his movies...

Jonny Lee Miller is quite handy with the singlestick.

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