Quick question, is this legal


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So, I was wondering if the fallowing was legal by RAW. Human takes the alternate racial trait for Human Adopted which replaces the bonus feat for racial weapon proficiency. They select tengu, which replaces the human bonus feat for all blade-like weapons. Is this legit? This seems really OP. If not, that is fine.

Also, it is good to be back after my year long break.

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I think it must be Weapon Familiarity only.


Must be titled "Weapon Familiarity" and the tengu's is swordtrained.


Ah, didn't think so, but thanks anyways.


But it still allows for weapon focus or skill focus, so it is not a total loss. So for Tengu I could take either linguistics, preception, or stealth with skill focus. Also, I could take weapon focus (pick sword-like weapon).


No, the Adoptive Parentage alternate racial trait gives weapon familiarity. Tengu have no familiarity, they have proficiency. You would get a weapon focus or skill focus that was appropriate--probably weapon focus in a blade of some kind or skill focus in stealth or perception.

Adoptive Parentage:
"Adoptive Parentage Humans are sometimes orphaned and adopted by other races. Choose one humanoid race without the human subtype. You start play with that race's languages and gain that race's weapon familiarity racial trait (if any). If the race does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait." (emphasis mine)

Tengu:
"Swordtrained: Tengus are trained from birth in swordplay, and as a result are automatically proficient with sword-like weapons (including bastard swords, daggers, elven curve blades, falchions, greatswords, kukris, longswords, punching daggers, rapiers, scimitars, short swords, and two-bladed swords)."

This is not weapon familiarity, this is "Swordtrained."

Contrast this with, say, Dwarves:

"Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves are proficient with battleaxes, heavy picks, and warhammers, and treat any weapon with the word “dwarven” in its name as a martial weapon."

That is clearly called "Weapon Familiarity." This is what you can get.


Yeah, just reread through the ability a few seconds ago, hence my reply. But thanks for the quick responses everyone.

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