Yes to 1, No to 2, 3, and 4.
EDIT: 2 is a possibly I guess...if you're in shadows/dim light you can move/stealth before your attack.
2 and 3 are yes.
Stealth requires movement and a 5 ft step is movement. Or simply making an attack and then using your move also allows for stealth.
2 and 3 are yes.
Stealth requires movement and a 5 ft step is movement. Or simply making an attack and then using your move also allows for stealth.
You can only stealth after attacking in the same round if you're sniping as far as I can tell...
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You can only stealth after attacking in the same round if you're sniping as far as I can tell...2 and 3 are yes.
Stealth requires movement and a 5 ft step is movement. Or simply making an attack and then using your move also allows for stealth.
That is if you DON'T have hide in plain sight. With HiPS you can stealth whenever you want with no special penalty for being observed. Assuming you move, of course, which means you still only get 1 sneak attack per round with it (since you either full attack and use 5ft step for stealth, or move and single attack).
That is if you DON'T have hide in plain sight. With HiPS you can stealth whenever you want with no special penalty for being observed. Assuming you move, of course, which means you still only get 1 sneak attack per round with it (since you either full attack and use 5ft step for stealth, or move and single attack).You can only stealth after attacking in the same round if you're sniping as far as I can tell...2 and 3 are yes.
Stealth requires movement and a 5 ft step is movement. Or simply making an attack and then using your move also allows for stealth.
HiPS gets rid of this part of the Stealth issue:
Your Stealth check is opposed by the Perception check of anyone who might notice you. Creatures that fail to beat your Stealth check are not aware of you and treat you as if you had total concealment. You can move up to half your normal speed and use Stealth at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It's impossible to use Stealth while attacking, running, or charging.
Creatures gain a bonus or penalty on Stealth checks based on their size: Fine +16, Diminutive +12, Tiny +8, Small +4, Medium +0, Large -4, Huge -8, Gargantuan -12, Colossal -16.
If people are observing you using any of their senses (but typically sight), you can't use Stealth. Against most creatures, finding cover or concealment allows you to use Stealth. If your observers are momentarily distracted (such as by a Bluff check), you can attempt to use Stealth. While the others turn their attention from you, you can attempt a Stealth check if you can get to an unobserved place of some kind. This check, however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to move fast.
Not this part:
Your Stealth check is opposed by the Perception check of anyone who might notice you. Creatures that fail to beat your Stealth check are not aware of you and treat you as if you had total concealment. You can move up to half your normal speed and use Stealth at no penalty. When moving at a speed greater than half but less than your normal speed, you take a -5 penalty. It's impossible to use Stealth while attacking, running, or charging.
Creatures gain a bonus or penalty on Stealth checks based on their size: Fine +16, Diminutive +12, Tiny +8, Small +4, Medium +0, Large -4, Huge -8, Gargantuan -12, Colossal -16.
If people are observing you using any of their senses (but typically sight), you can't use Stealth. Against most creatures, finding cover or concealment allows you to use Stealth. If your observers are momentarily distracted (such as by a Bluff check), you can attempt to use Stealth. While the others turn their attention from you, you can attempt a Stealth check if you can get to an unobserved place of some kind. This check, however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to move fast.
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You're not using stealth WHILE attacking, you're attacking (which breaks stealth), then spending another action to re-stealth. There is a gap in there where you're visible without a check (which makes prepared actions a problem for you). Sniping lets you KEEP stealth while attacking, so prepared actions aren't a problem since you're not visible even for a second.
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I built a PC to do pretty much this.
No Shadowdancer levels, but could use Stealth whilst observed, without cover, or concealment, in darkness, dim light, normal light, bright light, from Tremorsense, Blindsense, Blindsight, and Scent, and all with little more than a 5ft step.
Let's see.. Hellcat Stealth and Dampen Presence feats, plus negate aroma and air walk spells. Dim Light/Darkness portion requires Assassin, Shadowdancer, or Ranger. I'm guessing Assassin?
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Nope. Ranger, with Two-handed Fighter dip.
Eldritch Heritage for the Shadow Bloodline Hide in Plain Sight.
I thought that Eldritch Heritage only gave you the 1st level bloodline power.
Benefit: Select one sorcerer bloodline. You must have Skill focus in the class skill that bloodline grants to a sorcerer at 1st level (for example, Heal for the celestial bloodline). This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have. You gain the first-level bloodline power for the selected bloodline. For purposes of using that power, treat your sorcerer level as equal to your character level – 2, even if you have levels in sorcerer. You do not gain any of the other bloodline abilities.
Shadow Well is a 9th level ability. Maybe I'm missing something stupid. (It wouldn't be the first time. :P)
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Nope. Ranger, with Two-handed Fighter dip.
Eldritch Heritage for the Shadow Bloodline Hide in Plain Sight.
I thought that Eldritch Heritage only gave you the 1st level bloodline power.
Benefit: Select one sorcerer bloodline. You must have Skill focus in the class skill that bloodline grants to a sorcerer at 1st level (for example, Heal for the celestial bloodline). This bloodline cannot be a bloodline you already have. You gain the first-level bloodline power for the selected bloodline. For purposes of using that power, treat your sorcerer level as equal to your character level – 2, even if you have levels in sorcerer. You do not gain any of the other bloodline abilities.Shadow Well is a 9th level ability. Maybe I'm missing something stupid. (It wouldn't be the first time. :P)
He means the feat line. Improved Eldritch Heritage grants you either the 3rd level power or the 9th level power, your choice. Take it again to get the other. Greater Eldritch Heritage grants you the 15th level power.
1) use stealth to go behind target, then attack him with sneak attack in same round?
Yes. What's really fun is HiPS and Spring Attack.
2) i'm in melee with a target. My round, i use stealth (with HIPS), ?then make one attack with sneak attack bonus ?
Yes. If you only need a 5 foot step to reach your target you could use HiPS with your 5 foot step to enter Stealth, then use a Full Attack Action. You only get Sneak Attack on the first attack though (unless you are Flanking or they are otherwise denied Dex).
3) i'm in melee, i make one attack then use stealth (with HIPS)?
Yes. In fact you also have the options of making a Full Attack then using a 5 foot step to use HiPS.
Additionally, you may take your 5 foot step at any time between the strikes of your Full Attack Action. So, if you begin your turn in Stealth you could declare your Full Attack Action, make your first attack with Sneak Attack, 5 foot step using HiPS, make a second attack with Sneak Attack, then finish your Full Attack. Of coarse, this would leave you visible and adjacent to your enemy on his next turn which would typically not be good for you... but you could if you wanted to.
4) use HIPS in bright light room?
Yes, as long as you are within 10 feet of dim light; otherwise no. So, if you are in a brightly lit room and someone casts Deeper Darkness and there is an area of dim light in the bright room, you can use HiPS as long as you are no further than 10 feet away from the dim light.
Exit from stealth in melee or in ranged give only sneak attack bonus once and at first strike ?
You only get Sneak Attack on the first attack from Stealth. The reason is that after the first attack your opponent can clearly see you and react to your attacks. It is the same as attacking from Invisibility; after the first attack you are visible and your opponent can react.
And if first attack miss can i add sneak attack to follow attack ?
No. After your first attack you are seen, whether you hit or not.
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The only exceptions are if your opponent continues to be vulnerable to Sneak Attack for some other reason. (IE: Flanked, Flat-footed, you have Greater Invisibility)
