Closing the Harbor


Rules Questions and Gameplay Discussion


I got asked a question here and wasn't entirely sure on the answer, so I thought I'd ask.

Harbor wrote:
When Closing: Choose an open location deck. Shuffle a boon from your hand in to that deck.

Does the Harbor count for this? Can I shuffle a card into the harbor to close the harbor?

Arguably it's open until the very last second, immediately after shuffling the selected deck. So if you have a low AP boon, the text effectively becomes "Banish a boon from your hand, or choose another open location deck. Shuffle a boon from your hand in to that deck."

If this is a no go, then the wording doesn't hold up too well when the Harbor is the last open location, and you defeat a henchman before running into the villain.

Expecting that you can shuffle into the Harbor, that's how I ruled, but double-checking.


We play it like you do. Especially as it's a fun choice to have (banish or potentially add one future explore to do against the clock).

Sovereign Court

I believe the location is already considered closed by the time you're looking at the When Closing power. I don't have my rulebook to check though, so I'll wait for the inevitable post by Hawkmoon

Grand Lodge

Rulebook pg 15 wrote:

Closing a Location

When you have the opportunity and want to close a location, do whatever the location’s When Closing section says. Locations often require specific checks to close them; otherwise, they list specific tasks you must perform. (If a location says you may close it automatically, you don’t need to do anything else.) If the When Closing text offers multiple options separated by “or,” you must make your choice of options before you make any rolls or play any cards. If you succeed at meeting the When Closing requirement, search the location deck for villains. If you find any, banish all non-villain cards from the location deck. The location is not closed—but at least you know where the villains are!

Not considered closed at that point.


I think it's do the When Closing action, if any, then, if there's no villain in the deck, you can close the location. So the Harbor would still be an open location.

Grand Lodge

jones314 wrote:
I think it's do the When Closing action, if any, then, if there's no villain in the deck, you can close the location. So the Harbor would still be an open location.

Agreed.


I'd agree also.

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Orbis Orboros wrote:

I got asked a question here and wasn't entirely sure on the answer, so I thought I'd ask.

Harbor wrote:
When Closing: Choose an open location deck. Shuffle a boon from your hand in to that deck.
Does the Harbor count for this? Can I shuffle a card into the harbor to close the harbor?

Sure!

Sovereign Court

Makes sense then if that's the order. Definitely an awesome way to banish cards after starting Adventure 3.

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