When I use Dimensional Assult while mounted, do I get 2x damage with a lance?

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Not entirely sure, hence why I ask, but I want to use the dimensional assult feat to charge -with- my mount. I have enough caster levels to bring a large creature with me according to the dimension door spell.

Question is: Do I get double damage when I attack a creature with my lance, along with a single attack from my mount? OR do I just do regular damage, and my mount gets a full attack?

EDIT: Changed agility to assult

[Cap. Darling]

I dont se why not. It says "and to make the attack normally allowed on a charge." at the end of the feat description.
Edit: but pehaps your Mount wont be charging? And then it is back to the mounted combat rules not being clear:)

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Awesome, one teleporting, dragon riding Sorcerer/Dragon Disciple/Cavalier of doom here we come!

[Claxon]

I would say your mount wont count as charging, and you wouldn't get the bonus to lance damage because it's not a mounted charge.

Remember, you specifically are required to have the Dimensional Assault feat to be able to do this for just yourself. The dragon would need the feat too, to be able to charge. Which would be the only way it would be a mounted charge.

[FrodoOf9Fingers]

Hrmmm, so, I use D-Door, get a charge bonus (but not mounted charge), and then the mount gets to have it's full round of actions, including a full attack, which I guess is still effective O.o (Referencing the FAQ on D-Door, which states only the caster loses his actions)

Not as cool though, darn.

[Claxon]

I think it's due to a gap in the way the mounted combat rules are written. It might be reasonable to let it happen in a home game, but as far as the RAW is concerned Dimensional Assault only lets you count as charging, not your mount.

[CommandoDude]

Claxon wrote:

Remember, you specifically are required to have the Dimensional Assault feat to be able to do this for just yourself. The dragon would need the feat too, to be able to charge. Which would be the only way it would be a mounted charge.

That's because the caster can't act after using the spell. Other people teleported BY the caster act normally.

If the rider is the caster, and possesses the Dimensional Assault feat, then it's irrelevant whether the mount has the feat or not since the mount would act normally. Because when you charge while mounted, your mount charges too - the mount is simply getting the benefit of being teleported.

[Diego Rossi]

PRD wrote:

Benefit: As a full-round action, you use abundant step or cast dimension door as a special charge. Doing so allows you to teleport up to double your current speed (up to the maximum distance allowed by the spell or ability) and to make the attack normally allowed on a charge.

It is a "special charge", not the "full round action: charge". I doubt you get any of the benefits or drawback of the charge action.

I can be wrong, but I don't see how using abundant step or casting dimension door would give you the momentum of a charge.

I think that the feat need a better text, as currently it can be read both ways.

[cnetarian]

Either a charge using dimensional assault is

1) a special charge which doesn't have the movement restriction of a charge from the combat rules and the 'movement' comes only from the dimension door/abundant step cast, in which case the +2 hit/-2 AC/double lance damage doesn't apply

2) a normal charge (must move at least 10', cannot 5'step and so on) with a dimension door cast in addition to the normal movement, in which case the +2 attack / -2 AC / double lance damage should apply

I'm glad it hasn't come up for me, so I've never had to decide which is right. If pressed I would say both can be right, and if you charge with the only change of location being from dimension door or abundant steps then no double lance damage, if you charge and meet the movement requirements of charge then double damage with the lance.