Drunken Master drink size

[Charon's Little Helper]

I just had a quick question about how much booze you need to drink for ki. It says "a drunken master can drink a tankard of ale or strong alcohol and gain one temporary ki point."

Would it need to always be a full tankard, or only when it's ale? What if it were moonshine, whiskey etc? Would it still need to be a full tankard, or would he be able to drink 20-30 times from a single bottle?

If not - could you carry something bigger than a tankard to get 2-3 drinks? Could you get a staw hooked up to a backpack of beer? Or is it a subtle way to make Quickdraw a feat tax for Swift Drinker?

As a secondary question - does a drunken master need to worry about alchohal poisoning etc? I remember the 3.5 version mentioned that using alchohal actually burned it up, but the Pathfinder version is kinda vauge on that front.

(I'm thinking of a dwarven drunk monk as my next PFS character, so getting the RAW rules down pat is required.)

[Scott Wilhelm]

The rules aren't clear about volumes and actions. A 1oz shot of whiskey takes a Standard Action that does not provoke and attack of opportunity. A 16oz tankard of ale also takes a standard action that does not provoke an attack of opportunity. My Drunken Master just carried a couple of gallons of Applejack, and that seemed to satisfy all my GMs.

Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanical difference between drinking a potion vial vs. a shot of whiskey, so a Drunken Master should be able to drink potions without provoking AoO's. But the rules don't say that explicitly.

There is the Feat Potion Glutton which allows you to drink any Potable as a Swift Action. All Alchemists worship Uragothoa, did you know that?

I think Drunken Masters do need to worry about alcohol poisoning, but Monks have very high Fort Saves, and they become immune to poison at some point.

[Gwen Smith]

The alcohol poisoning rules are in the Game Mastery Guide, which isn't actually on the PFS Additional Resources list, so there's technically no official rules for alcohol poisoning in PFS. Expect table variation.

I would ask your GM before each game how they rule. If you want to carry some guidelines with you, you can grab one of the various "alcohol absorption charts" or impairment charts based on weight, amount drunk, etc.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content

As far as how much alcohol, I've always interpreted "a tankard of ale" to be "a single serving": so ~10-12 ounces of beer/ale (depending on the alcohol percentage), ~4-6 ounces of wine, or 2 ounces (a shot) of liquor. Those contain about the same amount of actual alcohol in real life, and as far as I know, Pathfinder fermentation and distillation follows regular real life rules. You can also probably look at the gear lists and use whatever servings things are sold in as a guide, too. (One of our drunken masters in PFS uses shots of sake for his ki: sake doesn't come in tankards, so he uses the little sake glasses.)

[Charon's Little Helper]

Scott Wilhelm wrote:

There is the Feat Potion Glutton which allows you to drink any Potable as a Swift Action. All Alchemists worship Uragothoa, did you know that?

I'm not sure that feat would work with a drink. Besides - I'm dubious of that feat since it mentions drinking a potion is normally a move action. Does it require Accelerrated drinker? (in which case it wouldn't work for alechemist extracts or for booze)

I was just planning to take swift drinker. I always figured that the 18 con requirement was the way to keep drunken master's near infinite ki (on a slow flow) from being OP. And that's one reason I was going dwarf. (Plus it'll be funny to have disgustingly good saves. I'm playing through an AP right now - so I figure that I'll start the monk at level 4 and have +11 or +12 vs all magic/poisons. Then maybe at 5 I'll take steel soul. :P)

[Charon's Little Helper]

Gwen Smith wrote:

As far as how much alcohol, I've always interpreted "a tankard of ale" to be "a single serving": so ~10-12 ounces of beer/ale (depending on the alcohol percentage), ~4-6 ounces of wine, or 2 ounces (a shot) of liquor. Those contain about the same amount of actual alcohol in real life, and as far as I know, Pathfinder fermentation and distillation follows regular real life rules. You can also probably look at the gear lists and use whatever servings things are sold in as a guide, too. (One of our drunken masters in PFS uses shots of sake for his ki: sake doesn't come in tankards, so he uses the little sake glasses.)

That's what I was thinking. I figure that I'll just carry around a bottle of grog. (cheap whiskey)