Game crash - "Waiting for character..."


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Goblin Squad Member

So, yesterday I was trying out charge, I charged a mob and my screen locked up. I had to cntrl-alt-del and use task manager to close PFO. Then I had other things to do, so I decided not to log back in.

I am attempting to log in today, I can get to the character selection screen, press "Enter World" and a few messages come up but when the splash screen is showing "Waiting for character..." there it is stuck.

Tried to twice, then rebooted computer, still stuck at same spot.

Next will try to log in with alternate character.

Goblin Squad Member

Ok, waited 10 minutes, closed screen. Tried to log in with alternate character. That worked. Alternate character came in doing the "falling through world thing" but the fall landed safely in Rathglen.

Logged out and attempting to log in with main again.

After seven minutes of "Waiting for character..." I'm going to have to assume my main character is stuck and unable to log in without GM help.

Goblin Squad Member

Waited another 10 minutes, so now 17 minutes in total. Still stuck there. Will go play something else and try again in a few hours.

Goblin Squad Member

I don't seem to have any trouble getting in. Running cross country is showing wild leaps in FPS from 3 to 110+ and (of course) very choppy motion. Also freezes from 1 to about 5 secs.

Edit: Also having trouble getting out with the "Quit" command. There is about a 20+ sec delay.

Goblin Squad Member

I can log in with a 1000 xp character, just not my main, so it is my account that is broken, not the game.

Goblin Squad Member

Yeah, I'd email customer support about it at this point given that.

Goblin Squad Member

This might be pretty serious. Decius has another Character he can't login, but I think the folks at GW thought it was a fixed issue and weren't planning to put in the effort to correct the prior occurrences since it was just Alpha.

If this bug is still occurring, they definitely need to look into it.

CEO, Goblinworks

Talked to Mark about this issue. He suggests attempting a complete client reinstall. Remove all traces of the client, download the installer from the goblinworks.com site, reinstall and see if that fixes the problem.

Goblin Squad Member

I will try that when I get home from work. But... why would that work for one character, when I can log in with an alt character?

I got a feeling that problem is not on my end...

Goblin Squad Member

Illililili wrote:
... why would that work...

I think it's kind of like "have you tried rebooting your computer?"

Doesn't hurt to try, and it's awesome if it fixes it.

CEO, Goblinworks

Mark thinks it is possible that you have a corrupted file. That would not necessarily affect all characters in all locations.

Goblin Squad Member

Ok, installed program from scratch on my laptop instead of my gaming rig. Logged in with alt. After alt logged in, it was falling through world, same as last time. Landed again in Rathglen.

Logged out and attempted to log in Main. Stuck at "Waiting for character..." Waited for 11 minutes here.

Turned off game, restarted and logged in alt. Did not fall through world on login, was just standing in Rathglen where I left him.

At this point my best guess is that my main fell through world, got stuck, server did not know how to handle it, so froze character during fall. Now sometimes when I try to log in main it is still associating the fall with my account, which is why the alternate character experiences the fall, but alt is not in a hole.

If that is the case, I hope your GMs can summon characters not in game.

Of course, could be some other bug, but I think it most likely that this is just a continuation of a bug we already know about, and it is just being displayed in a different way.

Goblin Squad Member

After thinking about it, it is also possible that I fell through a hole in the world while charging, as that was the last thing I did before the game crashed. Perhaps if you fall through the world while trying to charge a mob the server is unable to handle the resulting vector?

Goblinworks Executive Founder

Running the uninstaller, then deleting the directory, then downloading and installing did not work in any sense; the new install still remembered my username, so the uninstall wasn't complete, and I was still unable to log onto the affected character.

I could believe that a corrupted file might be evident in only some cases, but a problem that exists for two completely independent computers but only one character seems more like a database corruption.

Goblin Squad Member

I did a fresh install on a different computer, so I am certain that the problem isn't on my end.

How long ago did yours happen, and when you try to log in are you stuck at the same "Waiting for character..." spot that I am, or somewhere else?

CEO, Goblinworks

It is very unlikely that the database is corrupted. It is much more likely that the character record has some data on it that the server is failing to interpret correctly so it cannot do all the steps necessary to get the character logged into the game.

I'll make sure the team knows (again) that this problem exists and hopefully they can take a look at these specific records and see if there's any obvious issue causing the interference.

Goblinworks Executive Founder

Ryan Dancey wrote:
It is very unlikely that the database is corrupted. It is much more likely that the character record has some data on it that the server is failing to interpret correctly so it cannot do all the steps necessary to get the character logged into the game.

Sorry; I think I might have used a programming term of art incorrectly. Because what I meant was a more general case of what I think you meant.

Also, the details of what is wrong are less important to me than the risk that whatever caused them is repeatable.

The first symptom I saw was that during a escalation raid/stress test with about 30-40 characters in-hex, everyone in hex lost connection at about the same time. Everyone else was able to log back in normally, as far as I know.

Goblin Squad Member

Just tried again this morning. Logged in alt, logged out.

Attempted to log in main, still stuck at "Waiting for character..."

Shut off game, logged in alt again.

Any eta on a fix? Or not going to bother and just hope it doesn't happen when game goes live?

CEO, Goblinworks

Not going to fix it for Alpha.

Goblin Squad Member

I'm now having this same problem with my main character. Logging into an alt works just fine while the main character is stuck at "Waiting for character..." I have not yet tried a client reinstall, so I'll do that now.

Update: A clean install did not fix the problem.

Goblin Squad Member

What were you doing right before you lost access to the character?

Goblin Squad Member

I just had the same happen, while using Balestra ability I fell through the earth and now stuck on "Waiting for Character"...

I'm hoping that "Not going to fix for Alpha" does not apply to EE.

This is also on my main, and deleting is not an option because I will lose my Destiny's Twin.

CEO, Goblinworks

Please email customer.support@goblinworks.com with these problems. That will create a tracked ticket so we don't lose sight of the problem.

Note that no fix is going to happen before next week at the earliest.

CEO, Goblinworks

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This bug now has the highest possible priority in our system, btw.

Goblin Squad Member

Ryan Dancey wrote:

Please email customer.support@goblinworks.com with these problems. That will create a tracked ticket so we don't lose sight of the problem.

Note that no fix is going to happen before next week at the earliest.

In the meantime, a warning should be put out about using charge feats. I had not experienced this event until after having used Balestra a few times. My hours of play previous were with shortbow and I had no problems.

Goblin Squad Member

I made a bug in game that there is a character "Bloods" that has been standing unresponsive most of this evening with zero hit points by a shrine in the hex NE of Kindleburn (right where a bridge crosses a dry river-bed). I'm betting that is a "stuck" character that is dead and doesn't know it. I took a shot at it to no avail.

Goblin Squad Member

Bluddwolf wrote:
In the meantime, a warning should be put out about using charge feats. I had not experienced this event until after having used Balestra a few times. My hours of play previous were with shortbow and I had no problems.

Darn it, I like Balestra. Taking it off my bar now though. Thanks for mentioning it Bludd. Hopefully they can identify the problem and eliminate it soon.

Goblin Squad Member

Any update on this?

Ryan Dancey wrote:
Note that no fix is going to happen before next week at the earliest.

Fortunately I still have my Destiny's Twin, but I'm afraid to even log in with him if I don't know for sure what activity was the real cause of the bug??

Was it actually the charge like feats that caused the crash?

@Illililili

Any resolution on your end, or are you still stuck on "Waiting for Character"?

Goblin Squad Member

I have got the 'waiting for character' bug on 1 of my characters. Other characters have no trouble logging in and out, playing, dying and whatnot. I will try the uninstall 'fix' and edit this post.

Goblin Squad Member

Any idea what triggered it?

Goblin Squad Member

<Kabal> Daeglin wrote:
Any idea what triggered it?

I was using Balestra, Illilili was using "Charge", I would also like to know what Pino was using??

Goblin Squad Member

I had Balestra on my bar as well, Bludd.
I was celebrating NYE at the time so details are foggy, but I never fell through the world.

ps
Reinstall is useless, hope my alt stays playable all weekend.

Goblin Squad Member

I got myself stuck in the same situation and I simply died. Once I respawned, my screen was all blue (except for UI controls). Trying to relog got me stuck on the "Waiting for character".

So no fancy maneuvers for me to get myself stuck.

Goblin Squad Member

Bluddwolf wrote:

Any update on this?

Ryan Dancey wrote:
Note that no fix is going to happen before next week at the earliest.

Fortunately I still have my Destiny's Twin, but I'm afraid to even log in with him if I don't know for sure what activity was the real cause of the bug??

Was it actually the charge like feats that caused the crash?

@Illililili

Any resolution on your end, or are you still stuck on "Waiting for Character"?

I had this bug at the very end of Alpha, and it was not fixed. I have been careful since then not to slot/use any of the "charge" type ultra-fast movement feats. Not worth the grief.

Goblin Squad Member

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I have been fixed.... Thank you to Ryan, for his excellent customer service and of course, to the Devs for fixing this bug so quickly.

Goblin Squad Member

Did they have to restore your character from backup? Or were they able to return him to the world? Has the bug been fixed, or do they just know how to make the characters "log-in-able" once bugged?

If it is fixed, the next bug(s) are desynchs again. There are 2:

1) When you die, almost every time you have to relog because you no longer display on the minimap, and if you continue to play you will lose connection completely. Note: This may only be happening in escalation hexes where you respawn in a different hex. We died a lot to our escalation today, and relogging every time is VERY annoying.

2) Any time you are casting a spell while you cross a hex boundary you lose all casting synch. To fix you have to relog. This is doubly annoying because only sometimes do your spells grey out. Most of the time your spells "appear" castable, they still show the graphics, but they don't actually do anything. Hilarious after you run across the world, join an escalation group, and try to heal the tank only to have no hp actually applied.

CEO, Goblinworks

The underlying problem is not fixed. We just built a tool to get the characters back into the game expeditiously.

Goblin Squad Member

Illililili wrote:
1) When you die, almost every time you have to relog because you no longer display on the minimap, and if you continue to play you will lose connection completely. Note: This may only be happening in escalation hexes where you respawn in a different hex. We died a lot to our escalation today, and relogging every time is VERY annoying.

I will add a bit to this situation.

I am not sure if it linked to the escalation or the monster hexes. In two different monster hexes, the radar map icon disappeared.
Illililili, were in a party when it happened? The times that it happened that I am aware of, everyone was in a party.
At one point, after a few party members had died and come back, my icon disappeared too, and I had not died - it came back later.

Illililili wrote:
2) Any time you are casting a spell while you cross a hex boundary you lose all casting synch. To fix you have to relog. This is doubly annoying because only sometimes do your spells grey out. Most of the time your spells "appear" castable, they still show the graphics, but they don't actually do anything. Hilarious after you run across the world, join an escalation group, and try to heal the tank only to have no hp actually applied.

Out of curiosity, did you try reloading the feats into the action bar before relogging?

Goblin Squad Member

Ryan Dancey wrote:
The underlying problem is not fixed. We just built a tool to get the characters back into the game expeditiously.

A hearty thank you to the devs for building such a tool while most everyone else was enjoying their vacation. We all appreciate your dedication.

Goblin Squad Member

Ryan made a post about this in detail here.

Goblin Squad Member

Mistwalker wrote:
Illililili wrote:
1) When you die, almost every time you have to relog because you no longer display on the minimap, and if you continue to play you will lose connection completely. Note: This may only be happening in escalation hexes where you respawn in a different hex. We died a lot to our escalation today, and relogging every time is VERY annoying.

I will add a bit to this situation.

I am not sure if it linked to the escalation or the monster hexes. In two different monster hexes, the radar map icon disappeared.
Illililili, were in a party when it happened? The times that it happened that I am aware of, everyone was in a party.
At one point, after a few party members had died and come back, my icon disappeared too, and I had not died - it came back later.

Yes, we were all in a party when this was happening.

Illililili wrote:
2) Any time you are casting a spell while you cross a hex boundary you lose all casting synch. To fix you have to relog. This is doubly annoying because only sometimes do your spells grey out. Most of the time your spells "appear" castable, they still show the graphics, but they don't actually do anything. Hilarious after you run across the world, join an escalation group, and try to heal the tank only to have no hp actually applied.

Out of curiosity, did you try reloading the feats into the action bar before relogging?

Nope, will try that this evening.

Goblin Squad Member

Illililili wrote:
2) Any time you are casting a spell while you cross a hex boundary you lose all casting synch. To fix you have to relog. This is doubly annoying because only sometimes do your spells grey out. Most of the time your spells "appear" castable, they still show the graphics, but they don't actually do anything. Hilarious after you run across the world, join an escalation group, and try to heal the tank only to have no hp actually applied.
Mistwalker wrote:

Out of curiosity, did you try reloading the feats into the action bar before relogging?

Illililili wrote:
Nope, will try that this evening.

I would be interested in knowing the results.

Goblin Squad Member

This applies to all attacks (or perhaps all ranged attacks), not just spells. My archer experienced this same effect at one point this weekend.

Goblin Squad Member

The utility ran today and fixed my character! :-D But then an hour or so of playing later it blue screen bugged again... :-(

Daniel.

Goblin Squad Member

What were you doing when it happened again? Do you remember the last feat you used?

Goblin Squad Member

Bluddwolf wrote:
<Kabal> Daeglin wrote:
Any idea what triggered it?
I was using Balestra, Illilili was using "Charge", I would also like to know what Pino was using??

So just had the "Waiting for Character" bug happen. I was practicing short sword rotation on starter goblins, using Balestra like Bluddwolf. I'll put a bug report into the GW bug subforum.

Glad the hourly fix is in! I'll be "Waiting for Hour"

Goblin Squad Member

Woo hoo! Back in by 3 min after the hour!

Liberty's Edge Goblin Squad Member

They've got a script that runs at the top of every hour that resolves this


The script doesn't always work. We have someone who had this issue last night and still cannot log in, he has submitted an email regarding it, hoping to get a response to play today :(

Dark Archive Goblin Squad Member

Iseult Eleos wrote:
The script doesn't always work. We have someone who had this issue last night and still cannot log in, he has submitted an email regarding it, hoping to get a response to play today :(

I have the same problem on my main, so going to e-mail Customer Support and see what happens.

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