Dodging Panache in difficult terrain


Rules Questions


Can Dodging Panache be used in difficult terrain.

Dodging Panache (Ex): At 1st level, when an opponent attempts a melee attack against the swashbuckler, she can spend 1 panache point to move 5 feet as an immediate action; doing so grants the swashbuckler a bonus to AC equal to her Charisma bonus against the triggering attack. This movement doesn’t negate the attack, which is still resolved as if the swashbuckler was in the original square. This movement is not a 5-foot step; it provokes attacks of opportunity from creatures other than the one who triggered this deed. The swashbuckler can only perform this deed while wearing light or no armor, and while carrying no more than a light load.

As the ability allows you to move 5' WITHOUT any movement cost and it specifically calls out that this is not a 5' step.. I would think it would allow making the 5' movement in difficult terrain.

Thoughts?


I'd say no. Difficult terrain makes all movement cost double. So to move 5 feet, you have to use up 10 feet of movement. Dodging Panache only grants 5 feet for moving, so you cannot use it just as you can't use a 5' step to move in difficult terrain.


I second a no. You need 10' of movement to move 5' in difficult terrain.

If you had nimble steps though, that would solve it.


I see your point Murphys.. however here are my thoughts.

There are basically two methods of 'movement' in pathfinder

A move action or a 5' step. Since this is not a 5' step, it should be the equivalent of a 5' move action. A move action of 5' without a movement cost.

Since you can spent a move action to move through difficult terrain, albet at 2x the movement cost, you should be able to take this 5' movement in difficult terrain, specifically because it does not have a movement cost and BECAUSE it's a move action, it invokes an the AOO.

Where is my logic wrong there?


Because it requires 10ft of movement to move into the square and you only have 5ft granted by Dodging Panache.


Clectabled wrote:

I see your point Murphys.. however here are my thoughts.

There are basically two methods of 'movement' in pathfinder

A move action or a 5' step. Since this is not a 5' step, it should be the equivalent of a 5' move action. A move action of 5' without a movement cost.

Since you can spent a move action to move through difficult terrain, albet at 2x the movement cost, you should be able to take this 5' movement in difficult terrain, specifically because it does not have a movement cost and BECAUSE it's a move action, it invokes an the AOO.

Where is my logic wrong there?

You get to move 5'.

In difficult terrain, it takes 10' to move 5'.

The effect does not say you get to ignore difficult terrain, so you don't.

Therefore, your 5' of movement distance the effect grants is not enough to move a 5' square in difficult terrain because you need to be able to move 10' to do so.


Damn.. I wish I had more arguments here

Thanks guys.. I appreciate the feedback...

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