Venture-Agent, Minnesota
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So... my boyfriend wants to play Hakon the Skald as a level 1 pregen.
Only thing is, the pregen does not appear to be a legal build. He has guidance, a cantrip that bards don't get (and does not have the 2 world magic trait or anything that I can find that would give it to him) and he has weapon focus at level 1 with a BAB of 0...
This presents us with a conundrum. Can we play the pregen as written, or do we have to get a fix? This is the most recent version of the pregen available. Is it considered legal to play?
Hmm
Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria
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Oh an funny story, our iconic shaman (at least the level 7 version) can't move, she has STR 7 and carries equipment that brings her above heavy encumberance. Heavy encumberance seems to be a non-isse since she wears full plate, but not beeing able to move is a deal breaker^^
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Oh an funny story, our iconic shaman (at least the level 7 version) can't move, she has STR 7 and carries equipment that brings her above heavy encumberance. Heavy encumberance seems to be a non-isse since she wears full plate, but not beeing able to move is a deal breaker^^
Dwarves ignore encumbrance as regards movement.
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Oh an funny story, our iconic shaman (at least the level 7 version) can't move, she has STR 7 and carries equipment that brings her above heavy encumberance. Heavy encumberance seems to be a non-isse since she wears full plate, but not beeing able to move is a deal breaker^^Dwarves ignore encumbrance as regards movement.
Still can't carry more then a heavy load, which this Iconic does.
i don't play PFS because not only do i not want to keep up with the erratas or faqs, some of which are constantly changing left and right, but because i like to do mildly illegal but required things like starting a level 1 monk with power attack or a level 1 warpriest with weapon focus or heck, playing a noncore race or 3rd party class without needing to acquire a special slip of paper. hell, i like to use the original versions of crane wing, heirloom weapon and antagonize from before they were overnerfed to the ground.
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Crane wing, imo, was never balanced to begin with and the "nerfed" version is the right version.
We will never agree on this.
Crane wing(pre-errata) is a balanced feat if the encounters are built with the mechanics (action economy) in mind.Being able to deflect 1 attack/turn is strong if you are fighting singular creature encounters (which afaik is the majority of PFS), but it quickly loses its benefit if you are fighting several monsters that can attack you multiple times.
Yessir!
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Crane wing, imo, was never balanced to begin with and the "nerfed" version is the right version.We will never agree on this.
Yessir!
Crane wing(pre-errata) is a balanced feat if the encounters are built with the mechanics (action economy) in mind.Being able to deflect 1 attack/turn is strong if you are fighting singular creature encounters (which afaik is the majority of PFS), but it quickly loses its benefit if you are fighting several monsters that can attack you multiple times.
Maybe so, but I would never allow the old crane wing in my homebrew anyway, so the nerfed version if better than no version.
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i don't play PFS because not only do i not want to keep up with the erratas or faqs, some of which are constantly changing left and right, but because i like to do mildly illegal but required things like starting a level 1 monk with power attack or a level 1 warpriest with weapon focus or heck, playing a noncore race or 3rd party class without needing to acquire a special slip of paper. hell, i like to use the original versions of crane wing, heirloom weapon and antagonize from before they were overnerfed to the ground.
And... just as a reminder, you would still need to get your GM to "buy in" for any of those things, as well. And I have seen responses to threads, both in the PFS and other forums, saying that many non-PFS games run under stricter rules than PFS.
The ONLY difference is that the PFS over-GMs have already ruled on the legality of all of this, so everyone knows, up front, whether you will see Zoomer playing with a rules-legal build, or with some sort of non-standard modified build. And don't have to worry that the GM gave Zoomer permission to use something that he denied to you. :(
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i don't play PFS because not only do i not want to keep up with the erratas or faqs, some of which are constantly changing left and right, but because i like to do mildly illegal but required things like starting a level 1 monk with power attack or a level 1 warpriest with weapon focus or heck, playing a noncore race or 3rd party class without needing to acquire a special slip of paper. hell, i like to use the original versions of crane wing, heirloom weapon and antagonize from before they were overnerfed to the ground.And... just as a reminder, you would still need to get your GM to "buy in" for any of those things, as well. And I have seen responses to threads, both in the PFS and other forums, saying that many non-PFS games run under stricter rules than PFS.
The ONLY difference is that the PFS over-GMs have already ruled on the legality of all of this, so everyone knows, up front, whether you will see Zoomer playing with a rules-legal build, or with some sort of non-standard modified build. And don't have to worry that the GM gave Zoomer permission to use something that he denied to you. :(
Unless Zoomer was playing a pregen. ;)
Venture-Captain, Iceland
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Yeah, Hákon is a little off. I played him at lv 7 to get the feel for the class And I´d reccomend going over his spells, he has to few of them per day. Also there were some questions about his powers not quite working as written.
That and his bearded axes ( skeggöx ) are too long but that´s just me being picky :) other that that the artist deserves praise. One of the more realistic and cool looking pregens Ive seen ( slight bias ).
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i don't play PFS because not only do i not want to keep up with the erratas or faqs, some of which are constantly changing left and right, but because i like to do mildly illegal but required things like starting a level 1 monk with power attack or a level 1 warpriest with weapon focus or heck, playing a noncore race or 3rd party class without needing to acquire a special slip of paper. hell, i like to use the original versions of crane wing, heirloom weapon and antagonize from before they were overnerfed to the ground.
You realize warpriests do get Weapon Focus for free at level one, right? :p
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Still can't carry more then a heavy load, which this Iconic does.Oh an funny story, our iconic shaman (at least the level 7 version) can't move, she has STR 7 and carries equipment that brings her above heavy encumberance. Heavy encumberance seems to be a non-isse since she wears full plate, but not beeing able to move is a deal breaker^^Dwarves ignore encumbrance as regards movement.
Actually you can: "A character can lift as much as double his maximum load off the ground, but he or she can only stagger around with it. While overloaded in this way, the character loses any Dexterity bonus to AC and can move only 5 feet per round (as a full-round action)."
Because Slow and Steady means your speed is never slowed due to encumbrance, dwarves can carry up to double maximum load and only lose Dex bonuses to AC if they do.