Some Questions on Barbarian Mechanics


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Hi I'm playing a barbarian for the first time in Pathfinder and I have a few questions on specific mechanics.

First of all I'm playing the Invulnerable Rager archetype. However I'm not 100% clear on how DR/- works. Can enemies overcome this type of DR/- with magic weapons or special materials?

Secondly I'm wondering how the Superstition rage power works. The description says: "The barbarian gains a +2 morale bonus on saving throws made to resist spells, supernatural abilities, and spell-like abilities. This bonus increases by +1 for every 4 levels the barbarian has attained. While raging, the barbarian cannot be a willing target of any SPELL and must make saving throws to resist all SPELLS, even those cast by allies." Notice how it only says you have to resist all spells. Does this mean that supernatural abilities and spell-like abilities cast by allies such as Channel Energy and Lay on Hands do not apply? Also what are the rules for making Will saves while unconscious? Does it mean an ally can can heal you without having to roll a save if you are unconscious and still raging due to Raging Vitality, but have the Superstition rage power?

Finally I'm wondering if the two rage powers Clear Mind and Eater of Magic stack. If you have both these rage powers and are able to rage cycle does it mean that you can roll one Will save and one saving throw against a spell, SA or SLA per round?

Thanks in advance for your answers.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber

DR/- cannot be overcome by anything that does not explicitly say that it overcomes DR/-. I'm not sure if there's actually anything that does that, but it probably exists. Materials and enhancement bonuses won't penetrate it, though.

I don't think Supernatural abilities would be affected by Superstition. Spell-like abilities, however, are generally treated as spells, and would still be affected.

An unconscious creature is considered "willing", but I think that only applies to spells that require a willing creature. I think Superstition, being a more specific rule, would override that, however. I believe the Barbarian still needs to make a save.

I don't see any reason that you couldn't use both Eater of Magic and Clear Mind during the same rage.

Grand Lodge

Note that DR/- only applies to weapon damage (including natural attacks and unarmed strikes.) Spell damage will ignore it just fine.

Scarab Sages

ZZTRaider wrote:
DR/- cannot be overcome by anything that does not explicitly say that it overcomes DR/-. I'm not sure if there's actually anything that does that, but it probably exists.

A paladin's smite evil overcomes all DR, even DR/-.


Pathfinder Rulebook Subscriber
Marie wrote:
ZZTRaider wrote:
DR/- cannot be overcome by anything that does not explicitly say that it overcomes DR/-. I'm not sure if there's actually anything that does that, but it probably exists.

A paladin's smite evil overcomes all DR, even DR/-.

There we go. That's the example I was trying to think of.


Markov Spiked Chain wrote:
Note that DR/- only applies to weapon damage (including natural attacks and unarmed strikes.) Spell damage will ignore it just fine.

DR never applies to energy damage.


*doesn't read thread*

Barbarians make terrible mechanics. I went in to get my wipers replaced, and when I got back my Honda was bashed to bits. He said it growled at him.

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