Does Concealment Reroll Stack?


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While kicking around a blind-fighter cleric concept for PFS play, I find 'Weapon of the Chosen' in my ACG, which allows a reroll on a miss due to concealment. Would my cleric get the benefit of WotC and Blind-fight essentially gaining two rerolls due to a failed concealment check?

Grand Lodge

Am I the only one who read Wizards of the Coast there?
I would think that you could definitely get two re-rolls.
You could use it to fight a baddie while they were under displacement, blurred and in the fog!

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Magus Pierce wrote:
While kicking around a blind-fighter cleric concept for PFS play, I find 'Weapon of the Chosen' in my ACG, which allows a reroll on a miss due to concealment. Would my cleric get the benefit of WotC and Blind-fight essentially gaining two rerolls due to a failed concealment check?

Typically there is text in the description that says that re-rolls don't stack with another re-roll from another source. If that isn't present in this case, then it probably would stack (until otherwise clarified or errata is released).

To speed up game-play, you should do a miss is 1 on a 1d4 for 50% miss chance, and a 1 on 1d20 for 20%. You do yourself out of a 0.01 to hit on the last one, but in the interest of not having multiple rolls bog down the game I think that's ok.


The rerolls are from different sources so it should work unless PFS has a special rule.


Yes they do stack. The only thing is making sure that you declare beforehand if you want the bonus. Blindfight is free but the other one costs a swift.

Sovereign Court

I wonder if you'd rule it like "multiplying" damage dice. For example, if you have someone with spirited charge and a lance who crits, you give them x4 damage, not x6 (since they'd get x3 with spirited charge on a non-crit). For this interesting blind-fighting scenario, would you simply roll 3 miss chances and if 1 of them hit you're ok, or would you roll twice and if neither hit, roll twice again?

Pathfinder math makes my head hurt.


My take is a series of chances, first the free concealment check, failing that WotC (if declared), failing that blind-fight. Could just roll 3 d20's at once (for regular concealment) and if any are above 1 assume success, or three sets of d10's for sticklers. Note: all my dice are individual sets so it'd be easy to track based on color.

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Magus Pierce wrote:
My take is a series of chances, first the free concealment check, failing that WotC (if declared), failing that blind-fight. Could just roll 3 d20's at once (for regular concealment) and if any are above 1 assume success, or three sets of d10's for sticklers. Note: all my dice are individual sets so it'd be easy to track based on color.

"...if any are above 1..." would be for 5% miss chances right?

1 in 20 is = 5%

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20% of 20% of 20% would be 0.8% right? or slightly less than a 1 in 100 chance.

Liberty's Edge

nosig wrote:
20% of 20% of 20% would be 0.8% right? or slightly less than a 1 in 100 chance.

Yes. 1 in 125 to be exact.

Liberty's Edge

PRD wrote:

Weapon of the Chosen (Combat)

The influence of your deity guides your favored weapon.

Prerequisites: Weapon Focus with deity's favored weapon, must worship and receive spells from a deity.

Benefit: As a swift action, you can call upon your deity to guide an attack you make with your deity's favored weapon. On your next attack in that round with that weapon, your weapon counts as magical for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction or striking an incorporeal creature. If your attack misses because of concealment, you can reroll your miss chance one time to see whether you actually hit.

Weird choice of words. I will allow 2 rerolls, but the text cited seem to limit the reroll to only one, regardless of the character abilities.

Without the ability to re-roll twice the ability is fairly weak as soon as you get a magical weapon. The improved and greater power are decent but the first one decidedly weak.

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